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Re: Is There a Breakdown of Respect?

Originally Posted by AnnieS ->
Look it has it's own list of principles :

https://secularhumanism.org/what-is-...s-of-humanism/

It's like a humanist version of the Nicene Creed!

Kurtz is one person expressing his views. It is nothing more and has no more meaning than that.
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Re: Is There a Breakdown of Respect?

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So are you saying that you need to belong to a group for social bonding?
I get on well with many people but I don't have to think like them or attend the same social gatherings!
Personally I think that respect for others comes from having good manners. For example..... if I associate with a muslim lady I would be interested in her head covering and want to know how she secures it. Out of respect I would wear one if I entered her mosque, but that doesn't mean I would wear one every time I spoke to her!
Surely good manners start at home & are continued in school, so everybody who gets past school age & still has no respect for others has obviously been brought up without manners, has not been taught them at school & spends their lives only considering their own wants & needs.... why would anybody want to socialise with them?
You obviously haven't noticed Twink, but humans tend to group together, we are social animals. Safety in numbers. We enjoy community, Brits group together abroad, Muslims are all about community, Christians used to be the same, football supporters, patriotism, political affiliations, in fact anywhere where you find kindred spirits. There are all sorts of social, sporting and political clubs all across the world, you don't need to believe in God, but in order for us all to rub along happily, we need rules...And these days people just don't like following rules, and without them, we have anarchy and disrespect....You have to agree that most of the rules found in religion are not just applicable to believers, but are valid for everyone.
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15-04-2021, 08:53 PM
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Re: Is There a Breakdown of Respect?

Humans have survived because we group together and work together. As our societies are so sophisticated we take that need for granted.
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Re: Is There a Breakdown of Respect?

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We could invent our own religion. perhaps a subject for another thread?!
After witnessing first hand what the modern world is doing to people these days I despair of where this world is going.
TV, movies, computer games, MSM, and all of them carefully orchestrated for corrupting the mind. There is a saying....'We are what we eat' and I believe 'We are what we see' You can't unsee anything, it stays in the mind corrupting and distorting how we think and act.
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Re: Is There a Breakdown of Respect?

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Humans have survived because we group together and work together. As our societies are so sophisticated we take that need for granted.
It seems to have been successful for a few thousand years Annie...
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Re: Is There a Breakdown of Respect?

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Look it has it's own list of principles :

https://secularhumanism.org/what-is-...s-of-humanism/

It's like a humanist version of the Nicene Creed!
It sounds remarkably like atheism to me, and that's been going for much longer than 'humanism'!

Consequently, I'd suggest that it's simply a trendy name for atheism, perhaps to lend it an air of organisation.

Do members have to pay subscriptions?

Atheism doesn't require that!
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15-04-2021, 10:39 PM
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Re: Is There a Breakdown of Respect?

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It sounds remarkably like atheism to me, and that's be going for much longer than 'humanism'!

Consequently, I'd suggest that it's simply a trendy name for atheism, perhaps to lend it an air of organisation.

Do members have to pay subscriptions?

Atheism doesn't require that!
Yes you can pay here (virtual collection box) it's just like a parish and you get to vote like at parish meetings :

https://humanism.org.uk/join/
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15-04-2021, 10:54 PM
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Re: Is There a Breakdown of Respect?

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Yes you can pay here (virtual collection box) it's just like a parish and you get to vote like at parish meetings :

https://humanism.org.uk/join/
Ah, so it's a money-making organisation...
just like all other religions!
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16-04-2021, 08:06 AM
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Re: Is There a Breakdown of Respect?

Originally Posted by OldGreyFox ->
You obviously haven't noticed Twink, but humans tend to group together, we are social animals. Safety in numbers. We enjoy community, Brits group together abroad, Muslims are all about community, Christians used to be the same, football supporters, patriotism, political affiliations, in fact anywhere where you find kindred spirits. There are all sorts of social, sporting and political clubs all across the world, you don't need to believe in God, but in order for us all to rub along happily, we need rules...And these days people just don't like following rules, and without them, we have anarchy and disrespect....You have to agree that most of the rules found in religion are not just applicable to believers, but are valid for everyone.
I would think that back in stone age times it was just families that grouped together. If we need to become groups of families, it just demonstrates that we were not strong enough to be independent, but it has nothing to do with religion, as suggested in the post I replied to!
I admit that the 10 commandments were good rules to live by, but I will never accept they came from God..... they were just things that good people wanted, and a great way to persuade people to follow Christian beliefs..... so we all got used to being controlled by something we thought was greater than us.
I can enjoy being social but, I think for myself & show respect to all, in the hope that they show respect to me. If they don't then I don't spend time with them!
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16-04-2021, 08:45 AM
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Re: Is There a Breakdown of Respect?

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Ah, so it's a money-making organisation...
just like all other religions!
Hello JBR

Like other organisations such as The British Diabetic Association, Humanism UK changed its name from The British Humanist Association a few years ago

A large part of its activities involves campaigning for things like removing the dominant or privileged status of religions in schools, where it is in effect indoctrination, and society in general; removal of the automatic right of bishops to sit in the House of Lords; to allow assisted dying; freedom of speech; and so on

Sometimes representatives of Humanism UK appear on TV debates & programmes, often leading to arguments with religious leaders

Humanism UK also provides non religious spokespeople for funerals, remembrance & commemorative events, etc

So yes, to carry out those campaigns they need funds

I was brought up as nominal CofE, but as I left school and became more independent I realised I was an atheist, and have stayed with that ever since; and I joined Humanism UK a few months ago; I thought it was money well spent

I've read some of the comments in your Posts on this and older Threads; perhaps you could have a browse through Humanism UK's website?
 
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