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From Wikipedia.

Green Cross International was founded by former Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev.

Jack Mundey (deceased) was a member of the Communist Party of Australia.
So what? That has nothing whatsoever to do with with programs being put in place to try to heal OUR environment.

In any case Mikhail Gorbachev was a - if not THE key player in the dissolution of the USSR. Jack Mundey is best known amongst us environmentalists for his support for protection of the environment by involving workers via the unions to stand against vandalism of natural treasures by those just out to get a fast buck.
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Government controls everything.
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Government controls everything.
Some things HAVE to be subject to central control.
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Re: Green Communism

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So what? That has nothing whatsoever to do with with programs being put in place to try to heal OUR environment.

In any case Mikhail Gorbachev was a - if not THE key player in the dissolution of the USSR. Jack Mundey is best known amongst us environmentalists for his support for protection of the environment by involving workers via the unions to stand against vandalism of natural treasures by those just out to get a fast buck.
Spot-on!
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How will the world look in 2050?

We could all be going to hell in a handcart, or learnt to manage and better control our impact on the natural world.

https://www.theccc.org.uk/the-scienc...climate-cycle/

If all the changes make no difference will we finally see the carbon sense reality.

https://www.zurich.co.uk/news-and-in...tainable-world
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Re: Green Communism

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How will the world look in 2050?

We could all be going to hell in a handcart, or learnt to manage and better control our impact on the natural world.

https://www.theccc.org.uk/the-scienc...climate-cycle/

If all the changes make no difference will we finally see the carbon sense reality.
You seem to imply that global climate change is in some way based on false or "spun" science. It isn't. Despite the extraordinary propaganda pumped out by the mostly USA fossil fuel sector and industries making use of fossil fuel the amount of data that has now been assembled clearly shows that burning fossil fuel along with other poisoning of OUR environment is the root and MUST be addressed.

But let's take your proposition that we get to 2050 with no indication of being on the path of recovery - what will have been lost compared with doing nothing and the poisoning of OUR environment increasing day by day and the situation being very much worse. Which will be the worst state to be in? I'd much rather having tried to do something and faced a bit of loss of standard of living than having done nothing and be facing mass extinction because we really ARE facing mass extinction if we continue as we are.
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04-07-2021, 08:07 PM
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Rising greenhouse emissions could tip off aliens that we are a rapidly expanding threat, warns a report.

Thought of everything.

https://www.theguardian.com/science/...-civilisations

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Rising greenhouse emissions could tip off aliens that we are a rapidly expanding threat, warns a report.

Thought of everything.

https://www.theguardian.com/science/...-civilisations


To be serious it's television that's more likely to tip off intelligent life and it's about now that we might expect a reply.

High power high frequency radio transmissions started in the 50's. That means that the broadcasts might have been detected anywhere in a radius of 25 light years from us and been responded to.

It's quite possible radar transmissions might have been detected before the 50's and have been followed to their source.

But planetary global warming --- well nothing should ever be ruled out, just assigned degrees of probability eh!
 
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