14-04-2021, 06:52 PM
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Re: Is Astra Zeneka TOO cheap??
Originally Posted by Percy Vere
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Are you sure about that Donks? Last time I looked it was 1 in 250,000 or 0.0004%
But what's a decimal point or two between friends eh Percy !!
That makes it even better !!
Thanks!!
Donkeyman! 👍🤗🤗👍
14-04-2021, 07:10 PM
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Re: Is Astra Zeneka TOO cheap??
Originally Posted by Percy Vere
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Only strongly suspect? Although I have no data to back it up, my gut's telling me that Big Pharma IS behind all the negativity because of AZ's philanthropy in this case.
This situation has happened before not so long ago when Aids
was running rife, and. poorer countries couldn't afford the price
wanted for the medication they came up with eventually?
I believe that's when lndia/ Africa and some South American
countries decided to make their own copies of the medicine
despite threats of litigation through the patent laws by Big Pharma !!
Maybe that was the start of astra zenaka ??
Donkeyman! 👍🤗🤗👍
14-04-2021, 11:15 PM
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Re: Is Astra Zeneka TOO cheap??
Originally Posted by Donkeyman
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Last time l looked Brucy, blood clot issues run at +- •2% of vaccinations of AZ. Injected??
That's even lower than the death rate from getting covid it's self !!
Much ado comes to mind ??
Donkeyman! 🤔🤔
If you are over 50 the change of dying from Covid is much greater than the chance of dying from the side effects of the vaccine. However for the under 50s the chance of dying from covid is very low so the chance of dying from the effects of the vaccine is relatively higher.
It is merely a question of weighing up the relative risks. The TGA has done this and has recommended that the vaccine not to be given to under 50s as the risk of dying from the vaccine is higher than the risk of dying from Covid.
It is not that difficult to understand.
15-04-2021, 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Bruce
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Assman, ignoring the inaccuracy of your figures it is a cost benefit analysis. If you are over 50 the change of dying from Covid is much greater than the chance of dying from the side effects of the vaccine. However for the under 50s the chance of dying from covid is very low so the chance of dying from the effects of the vaccine is relatively higher.
It is merely a question of weighing up the relative risks. The TGA has done this and has recommended that the vaccine not to be given to under 50s as the risk of dying from the vaccine is higher than the risk of dying from Covid.
It is not that difficult to understand.
associated with AZ vaccine Brucy !!
And guess what? It is even lower than my previous figure,at •ooo4%
Which in my book equates to FA!!
IMO the relative risk is meaning less at these values ??
The risk is the risk no matter what the risk is for another group??
•0004% is the incidence for the under 50's !!
Do you regard that as a RISK !!
I Wonder that you leave your house at all!!
Donkeyman! 🤗🤗
15-04-2021, 06:36 PM
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It's a little off-topic but in light of earlier posts:"UK scientists find higher risk of brain clots from COVID-19 compared with vaccines"
https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/uk-...es-2021-04-15/
16-04-2021, 12:46 AM
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Re: Is Astra Zeneka TOO cheap??
Originally Posted by Donkeyman
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Herewith a revised figure supplied by Percy on blood clot incidenceassociated with AZ vaccine Brucy !!
And guess what? It is even lower than my previous figure,at •ooo4%
Which in my book equates to FA!!
IMO the relative risk is meaning less at these values ??
The risk is the risk no matter what the risk is for another group??
•0004% is the incidence for the under 50's !!
Do you regard that as a RISK !!
I Wonder that you leave your house at all!!
Donkeyman! 🤗🤗
It really isn't worth trying to discuss anything with you Assman is it? The fact remains that the Therapeutic Goods Administration (TGA) have recommended it not be used for people under 50 so you can waffle on all you like but that is the situation.
I had the AZ vaccine and, believe it or not, had to leave the house to do it but I am not in the risk category for blood clots caused by it. I suspect three months in lockdown has got you confused about who can leave their house, we have no community cases of Covid in Australia, it is very safe out there.
16-04-2021, 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Bruce
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It really isn't worth trying to discuss anything with you Assman is it? The fact remains that the Therapeutic Goods Administration (TGA) have recommended it not be used for people under 50 so you can waffle on all you like but that is the situation.I had the AZ vaccine and, believe it or not, had to leave the house to do it but I am not in the risk category for blood clots caused by it. I suspect three months in lockdown has got you confused about who can leave their house, we have no community cases of Covid in Australia, it is very safe out there.
associated with AZ is the infinitesemaly low figure of •0004% !!
That, as others have pointed out is even lower than the incidence
of blood clots associated with just existing??
But RULES IS RULES it seems in Ozzie ??
Donkeyman! 👍🤗🤗👍
17-04-2021, 02:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Donkeyman
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I was merely refering to the fact that the risk for blood clots associated with AZ is the infinitesemaly low figure of •0004% !!
That, as others have pointed out is even lower than the incidence
of blood clots associated with just existing??
But RULES IS RULES it seems in Ozzie ??
Donkeyman! 👍🤗🤗👍
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