14-04-2021, 02:46 PM
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Re: J&J Vaccine on Hold in the USA and EU
Originally Posted by Bread
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It's not very innovative cancelling approved vaccines when you're in your situation. In fact its a really stupid thing to do.
Better?
14-04-2021, 03:03 PM
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Re: J&J Vaccine on Hold in the USA and EU
Originally Posted by 7779311
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It is a question of perseverance, we in the EU are being consistent, even in doing stupid things.Better?
14-04-2021, 03:14 PM
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Re: J&J Vaccine on Hold in the USA and EU
Originally Posted by 7779311
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It is a question of perseverance, we in the EU are being consistent, even in doing stupid things.Better?
I genuinely applaud the 27 in ignoring the failing commission and finding alternative paths to vaccines.
14-04-2021, 03:26 PM
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Re: J&J Vaccine on Hold in the USA and EU
Originally Posted by Bread
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I'm not surprised there is mutiny in the EU when it comes to sourcing vaccines. The member states shouldn't have to be forced to obey a political system that should be ending infections and covid deaths instead of prolonging the situation.I genuinely applaud the 27 in ignoring the failing commission and finding alternative paths to vaccines.
The Italian newspaper "La Stampa" had reported earlier, that the EU was quitting AZ. The EU comission said this was not the case.
Meanwhile Denmark has quit using AZ and relies on other vaccines.
Does this show that either Denmark does not "obey their German superiors" (thanks Bread for lending me that phrase) or that the member states are sovereign in their decision?
14-04-2021, 03:34 PM
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Re: J&J Vaccine on Hold in the USA and EU
Originally Posted by 7779311
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I just did some research about it. The German magazine "Der Spiegel" reports today, that it is true, that the EU comission plans to focus on BionTec/Moderna/J&J/... vaccines instead of AZ in the future. *However* they say, it does *not* mean that no AZ vaccines will be ordered.The Italian newspaper "La Stampa" had reported earlier, that the EU was quitting AZ. The EU comission said this was not the case.
Meanwhile Denmark has quit using AZ and relies on other vaccines.
Does this show that either Denmark does not "obey their German superiors" (thanks Bread for lending me that phrase) or that the member states are sovereign in their decision?
14-04-2021, 03:53 PM
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Re: J&J Vaccine on Hold in the USA and EU
Originally Posted by Bread
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The member states are disobeying the commission and gradually re-taking sovereignty just like they did when they closed borders
Besides, to be more prcise, your phrase was "your German rulers" and I wrongly quoted earlier.
Anyway, as long as there are vaccines produced, I do not care which one I will get.
14-04-2021, 04:14 PM
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Re: J&J Vaccine on Hold in the USA and EU
Originally Posted by Bread
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The member states are disobeying the commission and gradually re-taking sovereignty just like they did when they closed borders
14-04-2021, 04:32 PM
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Re: J&J Vaccine on Hold in the USA and EU
Originally Posted by 7779311
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I am afraid that you are wrong here. Afaik health is not an EU issue, it is the members issue.Besides, to be more prcise, your phrase was "your German rulers" and I wrongly quoted earlier.
Anyway, as long as there are vaccines produced, I do not care which one I will get.
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