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It wasn't democratic though was it?
How so?
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How so?
Because I say so!
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Too many 'ifs' and 'buts'. These open the doors for future extension of the EU's control.

Going by May's concessions, I can imagine that the EU will obtain even more in the future than she has already given them: our fishing areas, for example.

All of this has been explained before by others here. I'm surprised that you seem to have missed them, but I suppose for one who hopes that we shall remain a vassal state of the EU, they are easy not to see.
Hi

Personal insults, the standard response.

We may not be leaving the EU in the manner you wanted, but we are leaving unless our own MPs vote it down.
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26-11-2018, 10:31 AM
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Almost empty. Your ships land their catch in EU harbors. For now.
The few still fishing, our actual fleet of fishing families are devastated. The poverty is dreadful and EU presided over that knowing how it would affect them.
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26-11-2018, 10:32 AM
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Because I say so!
One person one vote seemed the most democratic vote we had ever had purwell, it's only when it went to our elected officials it all went wrong and democracy is being damaged daily now.
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26-11-2018, 10:40 AM
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The few still fishing, our actual fleet of fishing families are devastated. The poverty is dreadful and EU presided over that knowing how it would affect them.
If the numbers of fishermen in the UK have fallen sharply since 1973, it is partly the fault of the cod wars. It is also the result of the sale and concentration of quotas into fewer and fewer hands – something that successive British governments have permitted or encouraged.

Thus lucrative Scottish white fish quotas are now dominated by three or four multimillion-pound companies based in north-east Scotland. Worse, 50% of all English quotas and 88% of Welsh quotas are “owned” by British-flagged ships that are really Spanish or Dutch or Icelandic. One Dutch mega-trawler has the right to catch 24% of the total English quota.*
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26-11-2018, 10:43 AM
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If the numbers of fishermen in the UK have fallen sharply since 1973, it is partly the fault of the cod wars. It is also the result of the sale and concentration of quotas into fewer and fewer hands – something that successive British governments have permitted or encouraged.

Thus lucrative Scottish white fish quotas are now dominated by three or four multimillion-pound companies based in north-east Scotland. Worse, 50% of all English quotas and 88% of Welsh quotas are “owned” by British-flagged ships that are really Spanish or Dutch or Icelandic. One Dutch mega-trawler has the right to catch 24% of the total English quota.*
Yes and unless we make changes and coming out if the EU is a beginning this will never be righted.
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26-11-2018, 10:55 AM
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The few still fishing, our actual fleet of fishing families are devastated. The poverty is dreadful and EU presided over that knowing how it would affect them.
Second Reading of the Bill takes place in the House of Commons on 21 November 2018. All clauses of the Bill, except Clause 37, which deals with devolved powers, apply to all parts of the UK.

There are 4,390 businesses in the fishing sector in the UK, the majority (87%) of which were very small with fewer than 5 employees. In 2017, employment in the fishing sector in the UK was 25,200, the majority of which (64%) worked in fish processing. Scotland dominates the fishing sector in Great Britain, with 55% of the sector’s employment (13,750 people) working in Scotland in 2017. The economic contribution of the fishing sector was £1.5 billion, 45% of which came from fish processing. The economic output of the fishing sector was 0.1% of total UK output (in terms of Gross Value Added, GVA, which is a similar measure to GDP).

Just under 80% of the UK fleet are 10m and under vessels (u-10m). However, both the number of vessels and the size varies significantly across the UK. England has the largest number of u-10m fleet, 2,512, and Scotland the largest number over 10m vessels, 576. The u-10m vessels accounted for 78% of the UK fleet but landed only landed 6% of catch by weight in 2017.
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26-11-2018, 10:59 AM
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Well https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...dustries---an/
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26-11-2018, 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by swimfeeders ->
Hi

Personal insults, the standard response.

We may not be leaving the EU in the manner you wanted, but we are leaving unless our own MPs vote it down.
Personal insults? Pots and kettles.

Have a look back at some of your posts, trying to show just how superior you are to the rest of us! I have mentioned this before, but have had no denial on your part.

It's a shame, really, because I suspect that you are an intelligent man. A little more humility might not go amiss.

Until then, I shall feel free to challenge you when I think you are wrong.
 
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