17-08-2018, 08:27 PM
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Re: Israel releases mail
Originally Posted by Andwar
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I agree with you about the money but the Palestinians are treated as second class citizens by Israel so I do not blame them for fighting back.
Israel enjoy billions of dollars every year of US military aid too.
And even last year a former Israeli PM warned
Ehud Barak Warns: Israel Faces 'Slippery Slope' Toward Apartheid
https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/...heid-1.5486786
17-08-2018, 08:31 PM
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Re: Israel releases mail
Originally Posted by fender
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By Hamas?
Look, neither side are fully in the right over this. The Palestinians (especially Hamas) can be stubborn and intransigent and Israel are worse as well as bullies.
17-08-2018, 08:32 PM
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Re: Israel releases mail
Originally Posted by Morticia
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I think you mean Israels recent 'Nation State Law' don't you? ... dubbed as Aparthed by some..
I meant Hamas.
For example, (and I can't blasted remember where I saw it) - Palestinian civilians are often TOLD to do things like go to the border and cause a ruck. If they decline, they are threatened with their family / relatives being shot.
17-08-2018, 08:34 PM
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Re: Israel releases mail
Originally Posted by Andwar
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I agree with you about the money but the Palestinians are treated as second class citizens by Israel so I do not blame them for fighting back.
The Palestinians in Gaza are not citizens of Israel they are citizens of Gaza .
The Palestinians in the West Bank are under the Avis of the Palestinian Authority .
The Israeli Arabs that live in Isreal have the same rights as
Anyone else including the right to have their own representatives in the Knesset .
17-08-2018, 08:35 PM
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Re: Israel releases mail
Originally Posted by fender
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No,I meant Hamas.
For example, (and I can't blasted remember where I saw it) - Palestinian civilians are often TOLD to do things like go to the border and cause a ruck. If they decline, they are threatened with their family / relatives being shot.
And if they go to the Border to demonstrate they are shot by Israeli snipers?
You think that is right?
Fender .. do you believe that Israel are totally guiltless and free of blame in this ongoing strife between them and the Palestinians?
I think they're both as bad as each other, though both sides feel they have a genuine grievance.
17-08-2018, 08:38 PM
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Re: Israel releases mail
Originally Posted by Morticia
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And if they go to the Border to demonstrate they are shot from Israeli snipers?You think that is right?
Fender .. do you believe that Israel are totally guiltless and free of blame in this ongoing strife between them and the Palestinians?
I think they're both as bad in each other, though both sides feel they have a genuine grievance.
Lets face it, from what I've read and seen over the years, the Palestinians don't want peace. They'd just like to see Israel wiped from the face of the earth. That being the case, Israel are not going to fanny around are they?
17-08-2018, 08:43 PM
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Re: Israel releases mail
Originally Posted by Muddy
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The Israeli Arabs that live in Isreal have the same rights asAnyone else including the right to have their own representatives in the Knesset .
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...tion-state-law
17-08-2018, 08:46 PM
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Re: Israel releases mail
Originally Posted by fender
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In many ways they are as bad as each other. However, for some reason many side with the Palestinians and Israel is the big baddest wolf.Lets face it, from what I've read and seen over the years, the Palestinians don't want peace. They'd just like to see Israel wiped from the face of the earth. That being the case, Israel are not going to fanny around are they?
I guess one could say his actions prove he is true to his word.
Israel don't fanny around, correct.
But between land grab and the annexation of illegal land and ignoring the UN they don't present themselves in a better light than their enemy.
They are becoming a law unto themselves ... and becoming more arrogant and answerable to none in direct proportion to their growing confidence over Trump's ham-handed support.
I don't see Israel as a big bad wolf ... but whenever I think of Palestinians nor do I automatically think of Hamas and think the Palestinians deserve everything they get.
17-08-2018, 08:49 PM
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Re: Israel releases mail
Originally Posted by Morticia
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I don't think Netanyahu wants peace either though ... I'll have to google it for those who prefer links to back up a claim but Netanyahu himself stated there would BE NO two state solution during his term in office.I guess one could say his actions prove he is true to his word.
Israel don't fanny around, correct.
But between land grab and the annexation of illegal land and ignoring the UN they don't present themselves in a better light than their enemy.
They are becoming a law unto themselves ... and becoming more arrogant and answerable to none in direct proportion to their growing confidence over Trump's ham-handed support.
It just comes back to the same thing with all the aggro in the ME. None of us should interfere and just let them all bloody get on with it?
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