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And another here.
Congrats! Noticed any benefit of substance yet?
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16-04-2021, 02:17 PM
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Congrats! Noticed any benefit of substance yet?
Ooh yes.
Vaccines and therefore lower infection rates and deaths for one.
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16-04-2021, 02:19 PM
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How many fishermen shall we chalk up as happy?
Not many in the Netherlands seeing as the commission has just banned your pulse beam trawlers from EU waters.
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16-04-2021, 07:59 PM
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Re: EU parliament refuses to set date for ratifying TCA

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Not many in the Netherlands seeing as the commission has just banned your pulse beam trawlers from EU waters.
No fishermen on those ships, factory workers yes.
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17-04-2021, 07:06 AM
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Re: EU parliament refuses to set date for ratifying TCA

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Ooh yes.
Vaccines and therefore lower infection rates and deaths for one.
😂😂😂😂

Vaccines have been a reasonable success however they are not being cited as the principal reason for lower infection or deaths

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/news....hnson-12274266

Also the path the U.K. chose to take with vaccines was nothing we couldn’t have done whilst still part of the EU and subject to EU rules and regulations

Wait a minute, we were still in the extended transition period and subject to EU rules and regulations so nothing to do with Brexit

Furthermore, our admirable vaccination success could be put back to square one of if the vaccines offer little or no protection to the Indian mutations that have arrive on our shores or for that matter any other mutations. Let’s hope that’s not the case

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/news....virus-12276922
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Re: EU parliament refuses to set date for ratifying TCA

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😂😂😂😂

Vaccines have been a reasonable success however they are not being cited as the principal reason for lower infection or deaths

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/news....hnson-12274266

Also the path the U.K. chose to take with vaccines was nothing we couldn’t have done whilst still part of the EU and subject to EU rules and regulations

Wait a minute, we were still in the extended transition period and subject to EU rules and regulations so nothing to do with Brexit

Furthermore, our admirable vaccination success could be put back to square one of if the vaccines offer little or no protection to the Indian mutations that have arrive on our shores or for that matter any other mutations. Let’s hope that’s not the case

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/news....virus-12276922
Yes, the UK could still have taken the path we did while still a member of the EU but there's absolutely no reason why we would have done so, and that's the point. No other members chose that path did they?

You saying vaccines have been a "reasonable success" says it all really. If it was the other way around you would be shouting from the rooftops telling us all how great the EU is and how utterly useless this country is outside it.
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17-04-2021, 10:06 AM
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Yes, the UK could still have taken the path we did while still a member of the EU but there's absolutely no reason why we would have done so, and that's the point. No other members chose that path did they?

You saying vaccines have been a "reasonable success" says it all really. If it was the other way around you would be shouting from the rooftops telling us all how great the EU is and how utterly useless this country is outside it.
The U.K. did not follow other EU members into adopting the Euro and offer took different paths unless it was enshrined in law. Which the common approach was not. In fact we were offered the opportunity to do so as we were still in the transition phase and abiding by EU law but declined and went our own way so your reasoning is flawed. That others decided to work together was their sovereign choice, the were not required by any law or regulation to do so

I said “reasonable” in that the fast rollout of the vaccination has no doubt played a part in the reduction of deaths, but as per the link I provided to the governments position states, it was not the principal reason for the reduction, lockdown was the main driver. That principal also applies to the EU countries whose lockdowns and social distancing have been less disciplined and less effective than the U.K. which is the real success story that most of the population have played a part in. But, it’s still nothing to do with Brexit

I have no issues with anyone proclaiming the success of the U.K. vaccination programme but saying it could only of happened because of Brexit is quite simply a lie, driven either by ignorance or desperation to find some Brexit success.

If the boot was on the other foot and the EU were making similar claims it to would be a lie because vaccination rollout is determined by each sovereign nation at can be seen by the various degrees LG progress in Europe

Lastly, the elephant in the room is mutations of the virus and the efficacy of the vaccines against them. I GCC our government fail to secure our nation against mutations that we may have no protection from arriving from foreign countries. You wouldn’t be claiming that was down to Brexit and you’d be right.
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17-04-2021, 10:25 AM
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Re: EU parliament refuses to set date for ratifying TCA

Originally Posted by Takahashi ->
Yes, the UK could still have taken the path we did while still a member of the EU but there's absolutely no reason why we would have done so, and that's the point. No other members chose that path did they?

You saying vaccines have been a "reasonable success" says it all really. If it was the other way around you would be shouting from the rooftops telling us all how great the EU is and how utterly useless this country is outside it.
Exactly this!
The last paragraph is absolutely spot-on too.



"But ..... but ......... but" the EUrophiles say, all the while completely ignoring the fact that not one of 27 member countries has done the same as the UK did.
Not one.
And they have no answer as to why that is either.
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17-04-2021, 10:40 AM
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Re: EU parliament refuses to set date for ratifying TCA

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Not many in the Netherlands seeing as the commission has just banned your pulse beam trawlers from EU waters.
Presumably, then, we can expect to see them all coming here!
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17-04-2021, 10:42 AM
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Re: EU parliament refuses to set date for ratifying TCA

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Presumably, then, we can expect to see them all coming here!
If they do it won't be for very much longer, will it?
You're not very well informed it seems.

https://fishingnews.co.uk/news/pulse-beaming-banned/
 
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