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30-09-2018, 02:56 PM
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Re: This is not right

Originally Posted by itsme ->
Although a fervent European, I have read today in the Times that the General European Court (a subsidiary of the ECJ) has backed the fact that MEP's do not have to prove, by receipts etc. their spending of some 4,400 euros per month expenses.

It concluded that an obligation to publish spending records would undermine MEPs’ privacy, concluding that campaigners had failed to prove publishing information was “appropriate and proportional”.

This obviously smacks of the same problem the UK had with our own MP's and leaves the EU open to ridicule by those who would wish to use it as proof of mismanagement of European tax payers funds.

When working I was always required to present proof of expenditure related to my work, and if I didn't the claim was not paid.

This in my view is, like the UK, a system failure through which, like UK MP's, MEP's would wriggle.

I shall most certainly be contacting my MEP over this matter and after checking the facts I hope you all do the same.
I am in total agreement with you. You may recall this scandal:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United...penses_scandal
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30-09-2018, 04:56 PM
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Er, nope

Only in a light humorous manner

As asked, who are these people? In spite of your piqued and terse response, you haven't actually identified any

Thank you for that.

Now, please try to actually answer my question

Are you referring to individuals, small groups, growing lobbying groups, governments, opposition parties in the UK and/or Europe?

Not sure why my asking for clarification from you leads you to your spurious and to be frank, desultory and rude conclusions
The others? are the people out there who are willing to do something.
The clue is in the word 'PEOPLE'.
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30-09-2018, 05:05 PM
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Re: This is not right

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The others? are the people out there who are willing to do something.
The clue is in the word 'PEOPLE'.
I'm afraid he doesn't know any such people, Dex.

They live in his imagination!
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30-09-2018, 07:41 PM
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Re: This is not right

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I'm afraid he doesn't know any such people, Dex.

They live in his imagination!
It would be useful if he could exemplify where to find "such people" rather than come out with holistic terms

Ironically, I agree with him in principle. It is a pity that his limited communication/specific exemplification abilities, coupled with his subsequent unfortunate paranoid "table manners" on here make it somewhat difficult to fight his cause on a practical level.

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30-09-2018, 07:50 PM
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Re: This is not right

Originally Posted by Dextrous63 ->
It would be useful if he could exemplify where to find "such people" rather than come out with holistic terms

Ironically, I agree with him in principle. It is a pity that his limited communication/specific exemplification abilities, coupled with his subsequent unfortunate paranoid "table manners" on here make it somewhat difficult to fight his cause on a practical level.

Silly boy
I wonder whether 'his people' might have been found at the last Labour conference.
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01-10-2018, 12:33 AM
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Re: This is not right

Originally Posted by JBR ->
I wonder whether 'his people' might have been found at the last Labour conference.
Hi JBR. I guess we'll never know, largely because he doesn't seem to know (or is curiously unwilling to specify exemplar groups)

Reminds me of the opening line to one of Pink Floyds songs on The Wall - "Is there anybody out there?"
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01-10-2018, 08:57 AM
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Re: This is not right

Originally Posted by itsme ->
Let me guess, I'll bet you haven't even contacted your MEP and complained about the expenses scandal. Instead like MEG with the cutting and pasting of a piece from the Telegraph you would rather sit around winging rather than doing something yourself.
What is the point in contacting an MEP's to complain, many of them as the recipients of expenses are unlikely to wish to change the stataus quo.

I have gone one better in doing 'something for myself' in voting to leave the EU so hopefully we taxpayers won't be contributing to the MEP's expenses for much longer.
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01-10-2018, 10:42 AM
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Re: This is not right

Originally Posted by meg ->
what is the point in contacting an mep's to complain, many of them as the recipients of expenses are unlikely to wish to change the stataus quo.

I have gone one better in doing 'something for myself' in voting to leave the eu so hopefully we taxpayers won't be contributing to the mep's expenses for much longer.
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01-10-2018, 10:49 AM
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Re: This is not right

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I'm afraid he doesn't know any such people, Dex.

They live in his imagination!
And this from a person who couldn't name the countries who, he said where queuing up with free trade arrangements with the UK after brexit.
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01-10-2018, 10:56 AM
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Re: This is not right

Originally Posted by Dextrous63 ->
It would be useful if he could exemplify where to find "such people" rather than come out with holistic terms

Ironically, I agree with him in principle. It is a pity that his limited communication/specific exemplification abilities, coupled with his subsequent unfortunate paranoid "table manners" on here make it somewhat difficult to fight his cause on a practical level.

Silly boy
You do seem somewhat sesquipedalian in your reply and I find it also pleonasm in its content.

Don't think there was any need for the silly boy bit though.
 
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