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Blinded By the Light

What has Manfred Mann's earth Band got to do with anything?
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09-11-2018, 04:58 PM
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Re: Blinded by the light

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Blinded By the Light

What has Manfred Mann's earth Band got to do with anything?
Because we're revved up like a deuce and another runner in the night?
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So those are the words
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09-11-2018, 05:16 PM
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Re: Blinded by the light

Originally Posted by Solasch ->
As matters stand you will be part of the european family for some time. Every family has its black sheep.
To be honest Solasch, No-one knows how it will all pan out.

Obviously, the EU and the Remainers have nothing to lose, they lost the battle, so by acting in such an uncivilised, bullying and threatening manner, which has become particularly rampant over the past two years, makes no difference to them, is is so obviously desperation on their part, it's become par for the course to Leavers.

For example, We now have the EU demanding the same fishing rights for EU fishermen after March 19, in exchange for sorting out the Irish Border.

Will we? Won't we? Who knows? We have a Prime Minister and negotiating team who are Remain supporters. I now wouldn't put it past Theresa May to betray the referendum result at all.

We also have to contend with a dictatorial bullying EU cartel, who let it be known that their aim is to punish the UK for leaving to deter other EU countries from wanting to do the same So, and in accordance with Article 50, which states that they should help with making the path smooth for any country wishing to leave, and unlike any other civilised organisation would do, behaves more in keeping - with the Fourth Reich.

We also have to endure the publicity seeking pipsqueak of an idiot, Viradkar, from a tiny island called Ireland, punching way above his weight in attempting to be a key player in negotiations. He thinks he is being so clever hiding behind Barnier and peeping out occasionally to deliver a threat to the UK.
Instead of trying to find ways of continuing good trade deals after we leave, he prefers instead to play the big "I am" on the world stage. If only he could see a picture of himself how others see him.

Brexit supporters have had every piece of crap thrown at us for the past two years. When Remainers thought all the ISTS and ISMS had run out of fashion, they thought up new names.
But we still hold on to the fact that democracy has not yet died in this country, even from the want of those still trying their damnest!

Apart from those of whom are known to support Brexit in government, we no longer trust any of them. The EU has taught them well and I include our own government in that. Theresa May must surely realise that if she gives way on any single one of the red lines, she is finished. But the big question is. Does she care enough, being a Remainer?

We will have to wait and see.
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09-11-2018, 05:25 PM
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Re: Blinded by the light

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Blinded By the Light

What has Manfred Mann's earth Band got to do with anything?
Now that was a good song!
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09-11-2018, 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by shropshiregirl ->
To be honest Solasch, No-one knows how it will all pan out.

Obviously, the EU and the Remainers have nothing to lose, they lost the battle, so by acting in such an uncivilised, bullying and threatening manner, which has become particularly rampant over the past two years, makes no difference to them, is is so obviously desperation on their part, it's become par for the course to Leavers.

For example, We now have the EU demanding the same fishing rights for EU fishermen after March 19, in exchange for sorting out the Irish Border.

Will we? Won't we? Who knows? We have a Prime Minister and negotiating team who are Remain supporters. I now wouldn't put it past Theresa May to betray the referendum result at all.

We also have to contend with a dictatorial bullying EU cartel, who let it be known that their aim is to punish the UK for leaving to deter other EU countries from wanting to do the same So, and in accordance with Article 50, which states that they should help with making the path smooth for any country wishing to leave, and unlike any other civilised organisation would do, behaves more in keeping - with the Fourth Reich.

We also have to endure the publicity seeking pipsqueak of an idiot, Viradkar, from a tiny island called Ireland, punching way above his weight in attempting to be a key player in negotiations. He thinks he is being so clever hiding behind Barnier and peeping out occasionally to deliver a threat to the UK.
Instead of trying to find ways of continuing good trade deals after we leave, he prefers instead to play the big "I am" on the world stage. If only he could see a picture of himself how others see him.

Brexit supporters have had every piece of crap thrown at us for the past two years. When Remainers thought all the ISTS and ISMS had run out of fashion, they thought up new names.
But we still hold on to the fact that democracy has not yet died in this country, even from the want of those still trying their damnest!

Apart from those of whom are known to support Brexit in government, we no longer trust any of them. The EU has taught them well and I include our own government in that. Theresa May must surely realise that if she gives way on any single one of the red lines, she is finished. But the big question is. Does she care enough, being a Remainer?

We will have to wait and see.
Article 50 doesn't state the intention is to smooth anything. The negotiations should be in accordance with article 218(3). It is a negotiation process where everybody tries to gain as much as possible for its union.
If you are to make future trade deals you better learn that fast. In that sense the present brexit negotiations give a fair picture of negotiation capabilities on the UK side.

The present negotiations show a major historic weakness of your union. There is a rip in it. As long as Ireland decides the only union they want to be part of, is the european union, the kingdom has a problem. The rip can be exploited in negotiations. The eu-negotiators wouldn't do their job if they didn't try to gain from it.
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09-11-2018, 06:41 PM
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Re: Blinded by the light

Originally Posted by Solasch ->
Article 50 doesn't state the intention is to smooth anything. The negotiations should be in accordance with article 218(3). It is a negotiation process where everybody tries to gain as much as possible for its union.
If you are to make future trade deals you better learn that fast. In that sense the present brexit negotiations give a fair picture of negotiation capabilities on the UK side.

The present negotiations show a major historic weakness of your union. There is a rip in it. As long as Ireland decides the only union they want to be part of, is the european union, the kingdom has a problem. The rip can be exploited in negotiations. The eu-negotiators wouldn't do their job if they didn't try to gain from it.
Its what N Ireland wants that is leading the negotiations.

We wont abandon NI so its up to the Irish if they think conflict is the way forward.

As for article 50, it was never intended to be invoked by one of the big economies.

It was designed for the possibility of one of the smaller nations to leave in the event of them electing a populist Gov't.

Therefore the timescales embedded within Article 50 are wholly inadequate for dealing with a major nation like the UK as we are currently witnessing.

Doesn't make the case for reversing Brexit however.
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09-11-2018, 07:00 PM
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Re: Blinded by the light

Originally Posted by shropshiregirl ->
To be honest Solasch, No-one knows how it will all pan out.

Obviously, the EU and the Remainers have nothing to lose, they lost the battle, so by acting in such an uncivilised, bullying and threatening manner, which has become particularly rampant over the past two years, makes no difference to them, is is so obviously desperation on their part, it's become par for the course to Leavers.

For example, We now have the EU demanding the same fishing rights for EU fishermen after March 19, in exchange for sorting out the Irish Border.

Will we? Won't we? Who knows? We have a Prime Minister and negotiating team who are Remain supporters. I now wouldn't put it past Theresa May to betray the referendum result at all.

We also have to contend with a dictatorial bullying EU cartel, who let it be known that their aim is to punish the UK for leaving to deter other EU countries from wanting to do the same So, and in accordance with Article 50, which states that they should help with making the path smooth for any country wishing to leave, and unlike any other civilised organisation would do, behaves more in keeping - with the Fourth Reich.

We also have to endure the publicity seeking pipsqueak of an idiot, Viradkar, from a tiny island called Ireland, punching way above his weight in attempting to be a key player in negotiations. He thinks he is being so clever hiding behind Barnier and peeping out occasionally to deliver a threat to the UK.
Instead of trying to find ways of continuing good trade deals after we leave, he prefers instead to play the big "I am" on the world stage. If only he could see a picture of himself how others see him.

Brexit supporters have had every piece of crap thrown at us for the past two years. When Remainers thought all the ISTS and ISMS had run out of fashion, they thought up new names.
But we still hold on to the fact that democracy has not yet died in this country, even from the want of those still trying their damnest!

Apart from those of whom are known to support Brexit in government, we no longer trust any of them. The EU has taught them well and I include our own government in that. Theresa May must surely realise that if she gives way on any single one of the red lines, she is finished. But the big question is. Does she care enough, being a Remainer?

We will have to wait and see.
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