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Originally Posted by Solasch ->
If you are saying the thinking has just started, than the bickering between remainers and brexiteers should stop. Start working together based on shared views of the brexit-consequences and solutions. Or is that asking too much?
We here are not (I'm assuming) governing this country Solasch. We have select committees that have been working together to try to plan ahead.

I really don't understand what the comments on "working together" and "pulling together" are about because in the UK they only concern the government. It matters not what the general population think or feel, the general population have all sorts of opinions but they are not in power. How are ordinary people going to influence what happens? Why would EU citizens who may lose their rights want to "work together"?

The two parties who need to work together are the UK and the EU. Neither want to compromise. Then you have Ireland in the mix. It's a toxic political cocktail.
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Re: A typical Brexiter

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A few minutes ago moscow stated in another thread that article 50 leaving was never meant for large economies as the UK.
What kind of economies was article 50 for then?
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10-11-2018, 12:22 AM
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Re: A typical Brexiter

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What kind of economies was article 50 for then?
The UK representative who helped formulate Article 50 , Lord Kerr, admitted it was meant for smaller countries.

https://www.politico.eu/article/brex...err-john-kerr/

But tbh that is old news and I'm surprised all these pro EU experts on this forum aren't aware of this.
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10-11-2018, 12:30 AM
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So just a random comment by someone from the House of Lords?
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10-11-2018, 12:39 AM
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So just a random comment by someone from the House of Lords?

Are you fkin serious?.............He WROTE article 50........Oh Annie, you are so out of your depth!!
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10-11-2018, 12:41 AM
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Are you fkin serious?.............He WROTE article 50........Oh Annie, you are so out of your depth!!
oh really? did he, are you sure about that?
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10-11-2018, 11:34 AM
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Re: A typical Brexiter

Originally Posted by Moscow ->
The UK representative who helped formulate Article 50 , Lord Kerr, admitted it was meant for smaller countries.

https://www.politico.eu/article/brex...err-john-kerr/

But tbh that is old news and I'm surprised all these pro EU experts on this forum aren't aware of this.


You are correct that Lord Kerr drafted article 50 and you give a site within which he also says that article 50 IS NOT irrevocable. This what needs to happen.

He (Lord Kerr) has argued publicly — and controversially — that Article 50 is not irrevocable. In other words, during the two-year negotiating period set out in the text, Britain could decide not to leave after all and simply remain an EU member. However, he says he cannot imagine how politics in Britain would allow such a U-turn.

How ever, there is nothing in the text that article 50 was only designed for large economies as some have suggested.
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11-11-2018, 08:32 PM
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The two parties who need to work together are the UK and the EU. Neither want to compromise. Then you have Ireland in the mix. It's a toxic political cocktail.
Could you give me a compromise the EU could offer? Within the rules of the EU. Any deal will be viewed by the ECJ. And don't forget, the eu-negotiators have to get the deal ratified by a majority in the european parliament. The deal can be rescinded by both parties before signing.
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If article 50 was not for the likes of us, why is it in use?
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If article 50 was not for the likes of us, why is it in use?
One size fits all, innit

When we drafted, delivered and signed the Lisbon Treaty, we had no idea that a few years down the line we would taste the poison.
 
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