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Gawd if your that concerned stick to salads and raw home grown fruit and veg.
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If I had the time and space I'd grow my own veg and only buy (meat) from local farmers - it's a pain having to rely on supermarkets!
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20-12-2009, 09:12 PM
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Mini - do you still have the SKK box/documentation? If so can you see if it says what type of non-stick coating it uses? Is it PTFE or PFOA or similar?

Edit: Ok just found out that it does..

Swiss Diamond, like most good quality non stick pans, such as SKK, still contains PTFE, the vapours of which have been named as a carcinogen when heated over 235 degrees centigrade.
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20-12-2009, 11:50 PM
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I've never used teflon coated cooking utensils. I swear by a good old well seasoned black wrought iron frying pan. Azz, you should look into the Romertopf, I've had one for years and love it.

This is a US site, but gives you an idea of what they're like. I have the 3-5 baker.

http://www.romertopfonline.com/clay-bakers/
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21-12-2009, 01:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Azz ->
Mini - do you still have the SKK box/documentation? If so can you see if it says what type of non-stick coating it uses? Is it PTFE or PFOA or similar?

Edit: Ok just found out that it does..
Azz my pan is coated with titanium, 40 times stronger than stainless steel .They use it for surgical procedures like joint replacements so it should be pretty safe


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SKK Pans Made in Germany, are a very wide range of Non-Stick Pans, Saucepans and Frying Pans. They
have a special Non-Stick Titanium base layer which is 40 times stronger than stainless steel
I have recently discovered that I have been exposed to asbestos (when a heating system was removed some years ago ) so the coating on my pan is the least of my worries
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21-12-2009, 03:11 AM
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Hi Meg, as far as I know they still use a non-stick coating on top of the titanium (titanium itself is a metal, thus not non-stick). It's a shame they don't have a UK/US website as they'd be expected to provide clear details of the type of coating they use.

Gastroflux use titanium for example, but use a non-stick coating on top of it (although they claim it is not PTFE or PFOA coating). So if titanium was a non-stick material ...why bother? It's all confusing when they don't have official websites that just come clean on what they use.

I emailed Gastroflux's US distributors earlier and got this response:

Originally Posted by Me
Hi, Could you please let me know if your Gastrolux products
contain any PTFE's?
Hello,

Gastrolux does not contain any PTFE, PFOS, or any other chemical used in
traditional non-stick surfaces. We are certified to 500 degrees Fahrenheit
with no off gassing,

Rest assured, our products are safe, and support a healthy lifestyle. If
you have any further questions, please let us know, or call us at
403-689-3360.

Best regards,
I replied back with:

Hi,

Thanks for getting back to me.

Your website talks about a bio-mineral non-stick coating - is this a natural coating or a chemical coating? Does it give off any gases at all if left on the hob empty? Which gases are given off after 500 degrees Fahrenheit is passed? Is the non-stick coating you use completely non-toxic and completely safe?

All the best,
Not got anything back yet..

Sorry to hear about the asbestos - which part of the heating system do they think was the culprit? I worry about it too, especially as I gutted this house which is over 100 years old! How did they say it is effecting you? Was it a large exposure? (Not sure if the amount matters?) Can they do anything? *hug*
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Sorry to hear about the asbestos - which part of the heating system do they think was the culprit? I worry about it too, especially as I gutted this house which is over 100 years old! How did they say it is effecting you? Was it a large exposure? (Not sure if the amount matters?) Can they do anything? *hug*
Azz it's a long story I had the heating system (electric warm air unit) replaced a few years ago and there was no mention of asbestos at the time. I removed part of the unit myself due to the inefficiency of the firm doing the job.

My neighbour recently decided to replace her unit, that was when we discovered they contain asbestos. What is done is done, I don't dwell on it, no point in making yourself ill about something which may or may not happen . (I enjoyed the hug though x)

I am not worried about Alzheimer's either, I think there is a huge genetic factor involved . We were bought up with aluminium sauce pans most people were. My stepmother who had a family history of Alzheimer's developed the condition in her late fifties. My father retained his astute and highly intellectual mind until he died aged 89 after a lifetime of eating food from aluminium pans
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21-12-2009, 02:07 PM
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All this concern about the safety of cooking utensils. You are more likely to get trouble from what you cook in the pans than you ever are from the pans themselves.

Come to that either is probably less hazardous than driving or even crossing the road.
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21-12-2009, 05:28 PM
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Just heard back from Gastroflux's US distributor:

Hello,

Gastrolux uses an all natural mineral for the surface refinement, so there are no chemicals. I have attached a certificate of testing. PFOS is the chemical that is applied to traditional cookware so that (PTFE) “Teflon” will Stick to it, PTFE by itself will not adhere to anything without a PFOA base.

Under testing, Gastrolux contains no PFOS, therefore no PFTE can be resident. Additionally, we have many customers that have expensive birds, and the issue of PTFE was a major concern of theirs. Glad to say they are all safe.

Please let us know if you have further questions.

Regards,

Brent Ness
Active Concepts Ltd.
Sounds good. I may go to one of the kitchenware shops to take a look

Originally Posted by Meg ->
Azz it's a long story I had the heating system (electric warm air unit) replaced a few years ago and there was no mention of asbestos at the time. I removed part of the unit myself due to the inefficiency of the firm doing the job.

My neighbour recently decided to replace her unit, that was when we discovered they contain asbestos. What is done is done, I don't dwell on it, no point in making yourself ill about something which may or may not happen . (I enjoyed the hug though x)

I am not worried about Alzheimer's either, I think there is a huge genetic factor involved . We were bought up with aluminium sauce pans most people were. My stepmother who had a family history of Alzheimer's developed the condition in her late fifties. My father retained his astute and highly intellectual mind until he died aged 89 after a lifetime of eating food from aluminium pans
Hope none of the symptoms appear Meg, here's another *hug* and

Re Aluminium, personally I think so long as it's not the final metal (ie behind a good coat of stainless steel/titanium) it's prob ok ) I think the use of it in deodorants etc isn't on tho. Hence why I only use natural non-aluminium toiletries etc


Originally Posted by Victors Mate ->
All this concern about the safety of cooking utensils. You are more likely to get trouble from what you cook in the pans than you ever are from the pans themselves.

Come to that either is probably less hazardous than driving or even crossing the road.
I think they are both of concern. Having been affected by such things in the past, I take the matter quite seriously (as you may have guessed! )) I just wish I knew what I do know back then.
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22-12-2009, 08:38 AM
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Good quality stainless pans are the best IMO, . . we've had a set for many years, the bases are half an inch thick so tend not to burn food easily, . . they were'nt cheap but they've lasted well.

A frying pan should be not too heavy, . . . it's less of an impact when the wife bashes me over the head with it.
 
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