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15-05-2016, 08:52 PM
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Re: Just a little pondering here............

Originally Posted by Uncle Joe ->
We haven't been a 'true' democracy since 1655, following the dissolution of Parliament by Oliver Cromwell.
We never had a true democracy and I would argue that we still haven't. Until 1918, the right to vote didn't apply to all, only men above a certain level of income. All the rest were deemed to be the property of the crown and therefore could be used as cannon fodder in WW1 and were conscripted quite legally. Those with a reasonable income or property owners could choose to volunteer or not. Only in 1918 were all men over the age of 21 given the right to vote, in contrast to women who had to be over the age of thirty with some property.

Not until 1928 were all women given the right to vote (by the `nasty party` Joe . It's a pity more don't use that right after it was so hard won.
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15-05-2016, 08:56 PM
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Re: Just a little pondering here............

Originally Posted by senile1 ->
Listening to ,or reading the news, you will hear three primary references to a government. Democracy, Communist , and / or Socialist. In reality, do any of these description truthfully any present government? Or do they misrepresent themselves in an attempt to fool the world into believing they are true societies representing what is best for their countries and citizens.

1- Is any country a true Democracy?
2- true Communism?
3- true Socialist ?

And there you have the reason why women spend so long in the toilet pondering on this question.
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17-05-2016, 10:11 PM
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Re: Just a little pondering here............

Originally Posted by eyes_of_a_painter ->
Societies may look to define themselves as they choose. But as long as the Ego is present in these societies their leaders will be front and center.They will be called one way and their leaders will impose their will another way. So perfection does and will never exist in the world.

Democracy, Communism ir Socialism is not the solurion to the world's problems. Their must be a change in the inner thinking of man. Where love and harmony prevails above everything else. Sound Utopian, but we must change how we think, and how we as a society truly live. But again, that will always be a tuff ladder to climb as long as the Ego dominates our world.


Here here, my friend. I view these titles as ways to cover hidden agendas, as for the most part these forms of government exist only in theory.
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17-05-2016, 10:19 PM
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Re: Just a little pondering here............

Originally Posted by Judd ->
We never had a true democracy and I would argue that we still haven't. Until 1918, the right to vote didn't apply to all, only men above a certain level of income. All the rest were deemed to be the property of the crown and therefore could be used as cannon fodder in WW1 and were conscripted quite legally. Those with a reasonable income or property owners could choose to volunteer or not. Only in 1918 were all men over the age of 21 given the right to vote, in contrast to women who had to be over the age of thirty with some property.

Not until 1928 were all women given the right to vote (by the `nasty party` Joe . It's a pity more don't use that right after it was so hard won.

My belief, both Democracy and communism are the two most over used terms to described government. Communism and democracy have never existed in their purest forms. Just terms to give the impression of support from general population.
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17-05-2016, 10:31 PM
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Re: Just a little pondering here............

Originally Posted by spitfire ->
There can be no true political ideology for a society because, once a party is in power, it has to seek to represent by consensus, which is all well and good, but, pulls the initial ideology into one big pit of radical centrism, which goes round and round and round.............


The desire of man to control his political environment.
 
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