Re: Time for ID cards?

That is illogical. It's on a par with the claim that there is no such thing as a perfect murder!

In the case of the - let's give it it's real name, national identity data base- the piece of plastic that the person will be required is only the key to threats base.

The only way that a false identity could be created would be to create an illigitimate data record set on the national identity data base.

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I'm with you.on that one, using two step verification, encryption, etc. would it be worth the baddies bothering anyway?
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Anything can be hacked.

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It's getting harder everyday to prove who you are....Photo ID, passwords, pin numbers, fingerprints, biometric ID......Sometimes I wake up and don't even know myself.....

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That is true. The best security will only buy time. Even a virtual AES 256 encryption, though using what is called a brute force cracking machine on a state of the art platform ---- well it would take a humongous length of time.

But it's not the data transfer from the access key (ID Card) that is where the record set that relates to each individual, it's on the servers that the access key gives access to, and read only access too.

The only practical way the record set could, yes could be accessed by a really determined hacker would be a human plant where the servers or the server man-machine interfaces were situated or where an illicit "backdoor" had been installed prior to compiling the server Operating System.

The bottom line, well lines are these.

The plastic thing people will need to carry will have very little data on them beyond an identifying code - just like a credit /debit card and a digitised photograph just like a driving license.

A person having authorised access would stick the card in a card reader and be presented with the same photo as on your card.

He would then, depending on the level of information or data he was granted be able to do what he was require to do.

This thing will come, and soon. It has to. We NEED it.

What will happen with data that is created by the access key being used and how information will be generated by mining that data is a whole new can of worms but it certainly will make protecting us for example from islamic terrorists one hell of a lot easier and in addition getting those who have no right to be in OUR country the hell out.

We NEED this.

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See that's exactly the reason we haven't yet had ID cards. It turns into one big control mechanism when you start to bring card readers and facial recognition into the mix. They have already been round face scanning people without their permission. On top of this card readers and whatnot would cost a massive amount to develop into wherever it is that they are going to be. Hence the gravy train tagging along with this brave new world. This is how a government project goes from a good idea to being kicked into the long grass again and again.

What do they have in Europe? They have had ID cards since WWII and seem to manage ok.

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Much of Europe have information data bases much as I have described.

It is now essential that we have an information data base irrespective of cost because the cost of NOT having this is unthinkable.

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Yet somehow that has not stopped them having terrorist attacks. So how does that work?

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Let's take France. Their information database is some way behind what is now needed and the strategy has been not to poke the rat's nest. That has only resulted in the rats spreading and becoming more active.

Then Germany. If Germany had the 25,000 anti-terrorist police that the UK has watching the 8000 plus really dangerous democracy hating filth that we have in the UK not to mention their supporters then the number of terrorist attacks and abuse of the German public would be much less.

We meantime are facing a rapidly growing fifth column who we simply can not afford to guard against by committing 3 anti-social terrorist police per capita, we have to move on to a better more cost effective means.

Then there the illegal immigrants that must now be found and kicked out, the bogus asylum seekers, the filth that should have their nationality withdrawn and kicked out, and the "decent" criminals who must be clamped down on.

It's time, actually past time to "cleanse the hive". We need it, and nothings more certain than it will come. I'd suggest within the next 5 to 7 years.

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that sounds like "ethnic cleansing". I hope that's not what you meant.