30-06-2016, 03:36 PM
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Re: Boris Johnson out of Conservative leadership contest
Originally Posted by graculus
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The thing about Gove is that's he's anything but honest, he's cunning, calculating and manipulating. The only person he takes any notice of is himself (well probably Murdoch and his wife as well). His comments about not wanting the top job were a manifestation of his Gollum- like guile.
30-06-2016, 03:41 PM
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Re: Boris Johnson out of Conservative leadership contest
Originally Posted by graculus
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The thing about Gove is that's he's anything but honest, he's cunning, calculating and manipulating. The only person he takes any notice of is himself (well probably Murdoch and his wife as well). His comments about not wanting the top job were a manifestation of his Gollum- like guile.
Originally Posted by Aerolor
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Agree completely Graculus - and nobody will convince me that the e-mail his wife sent was not deliberately leaked either. All part of the strategy. Gove is nothing but a traitor and I can't believe that at the 11th hour he had just made his mind up to stand for leadership.
Something odd is going on here and it has also been whispered that the hands of Cameron and Osborne may be in this too.
30-06-2016, 03:54 PM
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Re: Boris Johnson out of Conservative leadership contest
Originally Posted by Twink55
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I could be wrong but I think that Gove and Boris have realized that Boris would not win the votes. Gove was going to assist Boris's attempt ( probably with a potential offer of a good cabinet position) but I don't really think Boris was going to win so maybe they have reversed positions and Boris will get a top cabinet position if Gove wins. Believe me, no politician does anything unless he/she has something to gain personally.
I think you are right . Gove was at Boris's house on Sunday and I think that was what they planned .
If Gove and Boris had both stood anyway it would have divided the leave vote therefore handing the win to Theresa May
30-06-2016, 03:54 PM
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If Cameron is doing any negotiating in the background over the appointment of a new leader I don't think it will be in support of someone who campaigned for leave. Hopefully it will be Theresa May who accepts the post of Prime Minister, although I don't envy her this poison chalice.
30-06-2016, 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Meg
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That's not the impression I get Twink . It's all about the leaked email from Goves wife and Gove demanding certain assurances from Boris which he didn't get. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016...ris-johnson-f/
I doubt very much Boris would be in any Gove cabinet, I understand there is much bitterness between them now.
All these goings on in Parliment are like some greek drama, You couldn't make it up as they say.
30-06-2016, 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Twink55
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If they can't trust each other what hope have the public got of trusting any politician? I wouldn't have chosen either to lead the Tory party but I do think we need somebody who supported the leave campaign, because they are less likely to give way on discussions with the EU. I feel that many of our politicians have let us down, no matter which way the referendum went, and I would just like the country to be led by somebody who puts Britain first, ahead if their own desires. The other party seem to have no better to offer!
Still, better we see the temper tantrums now before a new leader is elected.
30-06-2016, 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Aerolor
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If Cameron is doing any negotiating in the background over the appointment of a new leader I don't think it will be in support of someone who campaigned for leave. Hopefully it will be Theresa May who accepts the post of Prime Minister, although I don't envy her this poison chalice.
30-06-2016, 04:12 PM
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Re: Boris Johnson out of Conservative leadership contest
Originally Posted by Twink55
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I could be wrong but I think that Gove and Boris have realized that Boris would not win the votes. Gove was going to assist Boris's attempt ( probably with a potential offer of a good cabinet position) but I don't really think Boris was going to win so maybe they have reversed positions and Boris will get a top cabinet position if Gove wins. Believe me, no politician does anything unless he/she has something to gain personally.
Old saying "The person who wealds the Knife does not become King"
30-06-2016, 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by galty
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Old saying "The person who wealds the Knife does not become King"
30-06-2016, 05:22 PM
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Re: Boris Johnson out of Conservative leadership contest
I think UJ's phrase 'Nasty Party" certainly reflects how Gove stabbed Boris in the back
Video: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-36677908
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