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26-06-2019, 10:20 PM
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Re: Slowly moving to no deal brexit

Originally Posted by Realist ->
One could also argue that the EU treaty also states that any member state wishing to leave should be able to have a Withdrawal Agreement. The EU thus far has not really offered us a WA, they have simply offered a fake withdrawal deal that pretty much keeps us in the EU in all but name. The EU are therefore breaking their own laws. On that basis why should we worry about breaking them too?!

Nevertheless, all seems on track for us to get out of the EU cesspit on a NO DEAL basis which is frankly excellent because the savvy realise that No Deal is the only way we will ever escape the clutches of these megalomanic bureaucrats.

We will take the pain of No Deal, we WILL get through it at whatever costs and we WILL emerge out the other side stronger, with our nationality intact and as a FREE nation. We will be the envy of the member states who will find themselves increasingly locked into the EU cesspit and doubtless the EU masters will be frantically revising EU law to make it harder and harder (if not practically impossible) for other member states to leave. The Exit door will close firmly behind us I'm sure and other member states will quickly realise their "lock in" status.

It won't take long however for the whole thing to collapse. There will simply be revolution. Internal rebellion as member state after member state simply ignore the crass EU rules and stick 2 fingers up at them.

What will the EU do? Throw them out? That's surely what they want!

It's a dead horse. It just hasn't stopped twitching yet.
Hi

The EU is going nowhere, it will change, yes, but as the biggest Trading Bloc in the World, it will continue.

The Euro will continue, but nobody else will join and some may leave.
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27-06-2019, 02:25 AM
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Re: Slowly moving to no deal brexit

Originally Posted by swimfeeders ->
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The Euro will continue, but nobody else will join and some may leave.
Presently there are 5 official candidate members (north macedonia, montenegro, turkey, albania and serbia) and two aspiring members (kosovo and bosnia &herzegovina).
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27-06-2019, 05:35 AM
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Re: Slowly moving to no deal brexit

Originally Posted by Realist ->
One could also argue that the EU treaty also states that any member state wishing to leave should be able to have a Withdrawal Agreement. The EU thus far has not really offered us a WA, they have simply offered a fake withdrawal deal that pretty much keeps us in the EU in all but name. The EU are therefore breaking their own laws. On that basis why should we worry about breaking them too?!

Nevertheless, all seems on track for us to get out of the EU cesspit on a NO DEAL basis which is frankly excellent because the savvy realise that No Deal is the only way we will ever escape the clutches of these megalomanic bureaucrats.

We will take the pain of No Deal, we WILL get through it at whatever costs and we WILL emerge out the other side stronger, with our nationality intact and as a FREE nation. We will be the envy of the member states who will find themselves increasingly locked into the EU cesspit and doubtless the EU masters will be frantically revising EU law to make it harder and harder (if not practically impossible) for other member states to leave. The Exit door will close firmly behind us I'm sure and other member states will quickly realise their "lock in" status.

It won't take long however for the whole thing to collapse. There will simply be revolution. Internal rebellion as member state after member state simply ignore the crass EU rules and stick 2 fingers up at them.

What will the EU do? Throw them out? That's surely what they want!

It's a dead horse. It just hasn't stopped twitching yet.
There’s more chance of a revolution in the UK if a no deal Brexit goes horribly wrong than one in The EU

It seems that you are desperate for the EU to fail to justify leaving as it is increasing becoming clear in that Brexit will be a disaster for the UK and we are heading for that cliff edge.
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27-06-2019, 07:12 AM
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Re: Slowly moving to no deal brexit

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Brexit is largely irrelevant.

There is a much more fundamental issue at stake here.

Who Rules the UK?

We were given a Referendum, both main Political Parties said they would implement the outcome.

The outcome was Leave.

We simply cannot have the Political Elite dictating to us, it is one person, one Vote.

Out we go, anything else is just wrong.

We can sort the mess out after we left, and we do have a huge mess and it will hurt.

That is entirely down to the stupidity of our Politicians.

I am not a Serf, I have a Vote and that Vote must be respected.

I was a very reluctant Leaver, now my attitude has changed.

I will not be dictated to.
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27-06-2019, 08:12 AM
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Re: Slowly moving to no deal brexit

Originally Posted by swimfeeders ->
Hi

Brexit is largely irrelevant.

There is a much more fundamental issue at stake here.

Who Rules the UK?


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I will not be dictated to.
Exactly! That I reckon is possibly one of the reasons many voted Leave, also that is the attitude our politicians should have adopted when negotiating with the EU. We might not be in the appalling mess we are presently in had they had that same attitude.
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27-06-2019, 10:15 AM
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Re: Slowly moving to no deal brexit

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It's EU law as well

In order to revoke Article 50 we would have to change UK law and EU law - we can do that but it would destroy our country's democracy forever.

No extension will be granted by the EU this time - Macron will not allow it.

It's not Boris you have too worry about, its his cabinet that will be appointed and all the remainers thrown out.

Like I said.... here come Boris !
I think you will find that the UK can revoke Article 50 Unilaterally.

And as for all this drivel about democracy it only goes to prove that people believe in fairy tales.
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27-06-2019, 10:47 AM
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Re: Slowly moving to no deal brexit

Who should have gone within 2 weeks of the referendum then all this bun fight would have got solved a lot quicker. By now we would be in a far better position trade wise

Our problem is the politicians, they only become politicians because they can't make up their minds and useless at every thing else as well
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27-06-2019, 11:36 AM
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Re: Slowly moving to no deal brexit

The people voted them in someone has to run the country.
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27-06-2019, 11:46 AM
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Re: Slowly moving to no deal brexit

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The people voted them in someone has to run the country.

run the country yes but this lot are only crawling let alone up and walking
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27-06-2019, 11:56 AM
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Re: Slowly moving to no deal brexit

Originally Posted by Muddy ->
The people voted them in someone has to run the country.
But not into the ground Muddy?

Regards Donkeyman!
 
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