27-06-2019, 02:43 PM
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Re: Slowly moving to no deal brexit
Originally Posted by swimfeeders
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HiThere is a much more fundamental issue at stake here.
Who Rules the UK?
We were given a Referendum, both main Political Parties said they would implement the outcome.
The outcome was Leave.
We can sort the mess out after we left, and we do have a huge mess and it will hurt.
Because it hurts they will demand to go back to the situation where they felt no financial hurt. Another referendum will support their demands.
The UK apllies for EU membership. You swim, will be the first to demand your government to implement it, since you truly believe in the will of the people. Will those who voted leave in 2016, accept the UK to apply for renewed membership in 2021?
27-06-2019, 03:47 PM
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Re: Slowly moving to no deal brexit
Originally Posted by Solasch
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While you have rain and thunder, we are suffering a tropical heat wave. Perhaps I can brighten your day even more?Suppose parliament (tories specific) table a vote of no confidence, to stop boris from no deal. By end of october. Triggering a general election. The election will be past october 31.
Corbyn's remain strategy for labour will fail miserably. Voters for brexit party will all gather behind boris who has by that time delivered on his promises to leave, and conservatives win the election by a wide margin. Farage will be completely eradicated, from both europarliament and HoC.
Regards Donkeyman!
27-06-2019, 06:25 PM
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Re: Slowly moving to no deal brexit
Originally Posted by Solasch
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Will those who voted leave in 2016, accept the UK to apply for renewed membership in 2021?
That has significant detrimental impact to other member states I realise but it is what it is. The EU had numerous chances to reform, it failed to do so. It only has itself to blame for BrExit and all the subsequent Exits that will inevitably follow.
27-06-2019, 09:48 PM
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Re: Slowly moving to no deal brexit
Originally Posted by Solasch
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Where do you observe signs for impending exits, and how do they manifest itself?
A notable Pew Survey of 9 EU member states turned up these results:
44% of Swedes don't like the EU
39% of Italians don't like the EU
Polls also suggest Italy's MS5 party could grow which would increase the chances of ItaLeave.
71% of Greeks don't like the EU
and so it goes on. It's all really just a ticking time bomb, waiting for the antiEU parties in these countries to gain power.
In France of course Le Pen is well known to be antiEU and wants to organise a FrExit referendum. More recently she has suggested she wants to change the EU from within but that might just be political posturing.
Meanwhile William Hill states the follow odds for the next member state to Leave:
Italy 2/1
Greece 4/1
Czech Rep 5/1
Poland 5/1
Sweden 10/1
France 12/1
Hungary 12/1
Ireland 16/1
Anyway we cut it the cracks are appearing in the Federalist State of the EU. BrExit will be a model for others.
27-06-2019, 11:38 PM
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Re: Slowly moving to no deal brexit
Originally Posted by Realist
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Gosh well there's a plethora of news all across t'internet which you can look up at your leisure.A notable Pew Survey of 9 EU member states turned up these results:
44% of Swedes don't like the EU
39% of Italians don't like the EU
Polls also suggest Italy's MS5 party could grow which would increase the chances of ItaLeave.
71% of Greeks don't like the EU
and so it goes on. It's all really just a ticking time bomb, waiting for the antiEU parties in these countries to gain power.
In France of course Le Pen is well known to be antiEU and wants to organise a FrExit referendum. More recently she has suggested she wants to change the EU from within but that might just be political posturing.
Meanwhile William Hill states the follow odds for the next member state to Leave:
Italy 2/1
Greece 4/1
Czech Rep 5/1
Poland 5/1
Sweden 10/1
France 12/1
Hungary 12/1
Ireland 16/1
Anyway we cut it the cracks are appearing in the Federalist State of the EU. BrExit will be a model for others.
28-06-2019, 07:15 AM
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Re: Slowly moving to no deal brexit
Originally Posted by Solasch
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Like I expected, no news and nothing doin'. Looks like it will be lonely for the UK outside the EU.
Switzerland will be the first country we do a deal with. Our combned financial clout will be massive.
Then we will go around the rest of the non EU European countries creating alliances and partnerships.
We will sign pre-deals with The Catalans , The Sardinians and The Basques and support their independence fight.
When Greece votes Leave in the next 5 years they will join us and the rest will follow........
Exciting times
28-06-2019, 07:22 AM
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Re: Slowly moving to no deal brexit
Originally Posted by Moscow
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That I doubt.Switzerland will be the first country we do a deal with. Our combned financial clout will be massive.
Then we will go around the rest of the non EU European countries creating alliances and partnerships.
We will sign pre-deals with The Catalans , The Sardinians and The Basques and support their independence fight.
When Greece votes Leave in the next 5 years they will join us and the rest will follow........
Exciting times
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