02-07-2019, 01:10 PM
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[QUOTE=Bruce;1736643]There is no free trade deal with Australia yet - still in negotiation. It took two years of negotiation to agree on the terms of the negotiations. The actual negotiations with the EU started in the middle of 2018 and are ongoing.Spot on Bruce, getting a bit ahead of myself there, even though I did caveat it with 'I think'. Probably get some stick off bread for not googling it first.
Towards an EU-Australia Trade Agreement
The European Union has launched negotiations for a comprehensive and ambitious trade agreement with Australia.
The EU is Australia's second-biggest trade partner. Bilateral trade in goods between the two partners has risen steadily in recent years, reaching almost €48bn in 2017. Bilateral trade in services added an additional €27bn.
According to an impact assessment, trade in goods and services between the two partners could increase by around a third.
The trade negotiations aim at :
Removing barriers and helping EU firms – especially smaller ones – to export more
Putting European companies exporting to or doing business in Australia on an equal footing with those from countries that have signed up to the Trans-Pacific Partnership or other trade agreements with Australia
Ambitious provisions on trade and sustainable development, showing a shared commitment to labour rights and environmental protection (including climate change) in trade
Protecting distinctive regional EU food and drink products from imitations in Australia
Allowing EU companies to better participate in government procurement in Australia
The Council of the European Union authorised opening negotiations for a trade agreement between the EU and Australia on 22 May 2018.
02-07-2019, 01:56 PM
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[QUOTE=itsme;1736826]
Originally Posted by Bruce
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There is no free trade deal with Australia yet - still in negotiation. It took two years of negotiation to agree on the terms of the negotiations. The actual negotiations with the EU started in the middle of 2018 and are ongoing.Spot on Bruce, getting a bit ahead of myself there, even though I did caveat it with 'I think'. Probably get some stick off bread for not googling it first.
Towards an EU-Australia Trade Agreement
The European Union has launched negotiations for a comprehensive and ambitious trade agreement with Australia.
The EU is Australia's second-biggest trade partner. Bilateral trade in goods between the two partners has risen steadily in recent years, reaching almost €48bn in 2017. Bilateral trade in services added an additional €27bn.
According to an impact assessment, trade in goods and services between the two partners could increase by around a third.
The trade negotiations aim at :
Removing barriers and helping EU firms – especially smaller ones – to export more
Putting European companies exporting to or doing business in Australia on an equal footing with those from countries that have signed up to the Trans-Pacific Partnership or other trade agreements with Australia
Ambitious provisions on trade and sustainable development, showing a shared commitment to labour rights and environmental protection (including climate change) in trade
Protecting distinctive regional EU food and drink products from imitations in Australia
Allowing EU companies to better participate in government procurement in Australia
The Council of the European Union authorised opening negotiations for a trade agreement between the EU and Australia on 22 May 2018.
You should have Googled it first
02-07-2019, 03:36 PM
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[QUOTE=itsme;1736873]I find it strange that eu can clinch deals at the drop of a hat
when they want to, but we are told it will take from 6yrs up
to get a so called deal?
Strange that leaders of deutchland and france ( not eu
negotiators?) can swan off around the world seemingly striking
deals ad lib, when we are told all deals must go through the
commission to be done?
Strange that the deals eu is supposedly making involve
countries that uk has allready approached for future prospects?
Could it be that there is some malice involved?
Imo the sooner we are out of the snake pit the better!
Regards Donkeyman!
02-07-2019, 03:49 PM
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[QUOTE=Donkeyman;1736918]
Originally Posted by itsme
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Your stock in trade up to now it is me!
I find it strange that eu can clinch deals at the drop of a hat
when they want to, but we are told it will take from 6yrs up
to get a so called deal?
Strange that leaders of deutchland and france ( not eu
negotiators?) can swan off around the world seemingly striking
deals ad lib, when we are told all deals must go through the
commission to be done?
Strange that the deals eu is supposedly making involve
countries that uk has allready approached for future prospects?
Could it be that there is some malice involved?
Imo the sooner we are out of the snake pit the better!
Regards Donkeyman!
The EU sells products of guaranteed quality. The UK sells nothing as several on this forum have stated, the UK is selfsufficient and uses/buys what itself produces/sells.
You yourself have often mentioned the trade deficit with the EU. It means you have to buy because you don't produce enough. So increase the production (my mother called it: work harder). More working, less talking.
02-07-2019, 04:13 PM
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[QUOTE=Donkeyman;1736918]
Originally Posted by itsme
->
Your stock in trade up to now it is me!
I find it strange that eu can clinch deals at the drop of a hat
when they want to, but we are told it will take from 6yrs up
to get a so called deal?
Strange that leaders of deutchland and france ( not eu
negotiators?) can swan off around the world seemingly striking
deals ad lib, when we are told all deals must go through the
commission to be done?
Strange that the deals eu is supposedly making involve
countries that uk has allready approached for future prospects?
Could it be that there is some malice involved?
Imo the sooner we are out of the snake pit the better!
Regards Donkeyman!
There is also the FTA the EU has signed up with Vietnam, but you wont find this in the mainstream media - not even "Googleboy" found it ...
Seems the principled EU have decided the human rights issues in Vietnam are perfectly OK now they can flog them some of Merkels cars that nobody else will buy.
Desperation at its finest.
https://www.euractiv.com/section/ase...ade-agreement/
02-07-2019, 05:07 PM
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[QUOTE=Solasch;1736924]
Originally Posted by Donkeyman
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It all has to do with what you can offer. The EU offers a market place with half a billion clients. The UK offers a tenth of that.
The EU sells products of guaranteed quality. The UK sells nothing as several on this forum have stated, the UK is selfsufficient and uses/buys what itself produces/sells.
You yourself have often mentioned the trade deficit with the EU. It means you have to buy because you don't produce enough. So increase the production (my mother called it: work harder). More working, less talking.
its fishing industry to eu countries!
has lost probably, 70% of its manufacturing capacity!
This after joining what was supposed to be an oppottunity
to increase our trade in these products?
Whilst l would be one of the first to agree that our ruling
classess were to blame for much of this l beleive the whole
eu system is designed to favour two countries only, and we
both know who they are?
As you point out, l have often quoted our trade deficit as a
reason for leaving eu! What better reason do we need?
If we are not to be allowed, or are unable to produce goods
for sale in the eu then there is no reason to be a member
of the eu with all the attendant costs involved in that?
What we are at the moment is a captive, passive, market for
EU goods!
I ask, where do we get the money from to pay for this
deficit and accompanying costs? That is not your problem
it is ours!
I must say that after all our correspondence your inability to
understand what l am saying is quite worrying?
Regards Donkeyman!
02-07-2019, 06:06 PM
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Re: Oh No
[QUOTE=Donkeyman;1736973]
Originally Posted by Solasch
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Snce joining the common market Solly, uk has lost 90% of
its fishing industry to eu countries!
has lost probably, 70% of its manufacturing capacity!
This after joining what was supposed to be an oppottunity
to increase our trade in these products?
Whilst l would be one of the first to agree that our ruling
classess were to blame for much of this l beleive the whole
eu system is designed to favour two countries only, and we
both know who they are?
As you point out, l have often quoted our trade deficit as a
reason for leaving eu! What better reason do we need?
If we are not to be allowed, or are unable to produce goods
for sale in the eu then there is no reason to be a member
of the eu with all the attendant costs involved in that?
What we are at the moment is a captive, passive, market for
EU goods!
I ask, where do we get the money from to pay for this
deficit and accompanying costs? That is not your problem
it is ours!
I must say that after all our correspondence your inability to
understand what l am saying is quite worrying?
Regards Donkeyman!
Mostly the easiest, most obvious, answers are the best.
Do some research (even google will do) and you will see the blinding simplicity of the solution.
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