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22-10-2019, 10:31 AM
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I thought the problem was too much immigration to England?
Well now you know that even if we stop freedom of movement into England at English airports they can still come in after Brexit by the back door as approved by poster boy Nigel Farage.

I think quite a few more immigrants come in by planes than rubber boats don't you?
Immigrants yes R1! But we are talking illegals here???
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22-10-2019, 10:40 AM
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Immigrants yes R1! But we are talking illegals here???
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Just wondering. Don't you think illegals come in by plane or do you think they mostly come in rubber dinghies?
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22-10-2019, 10:50 AM
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Just wondering. Don't you think illegals come in by plane or do you think they mostly come in rubber dinghies?
I have allready posted my views R1!What do you think???
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22-10-2019, 12:00 PM
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I have allready posted my views R1!What do you think???
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OK I would think the number of illegals in UK is probably in the MILLIONS not the few thousands that would be possible by rubber dinghies. I'm sure the vast majority will come by plane with dodgy foreign passports, bogus jobs, bogus families, overstayed "holidays" etc etc etc.

Nigel Farage just made that process a whole lot easier by having an open door.
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22-10-2019, 12:20 PM
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After discussing the johnson extension request in chambers, with meps from different signature, also from brexit party, donald tusk concluded that the request should be treated quite seriously. Thank you brexit party for this contribution to extending UK mennbership.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics...exit-extension
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22-10-2019, 12:29 PM
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After discussing the johnson extension request in chambers, with meps from different signature, also from brexit party, donald tusk concluded that the request should be treated quite seriously. Thank you brexit party for this contribution to extending UK mennbership.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics...exit-extension
The problem the EU have is that the new Withdrawal Agreement looks quite toxic now because it puts Northern Ireland in 2 different customs unions and builds a virtual hard border, thus breaching the GFA. And to think, Varadkar is in favour of it ... tut tut, snap election for him methinks

If the EU now grant an extension it would be to approve the WA and violate the GFA ... what a dilemma !

But if the EU really want no involvement in the violation of the GFA then refusing us an extension to try and force the approval through the commons would be the way to go (this or no deal on Oct 31st). Unfortunately, this would satisfy the Benn Act and Boris could then either get his party to vote down the WA and go for a no deal or withdraw it altogether.

But there again, the EU could hold off making a decision and make it at the last minute - but if they did that then they would be doing a last minute violation of the GFA and there would be no time for labour to try and ram through legislation for a second referendum with the WA - it might even get pulled because its not meaningful again (just like last time).

Looks like its game over for remain - the EU will start handbagging them in the commons soon to try and get the UK parliament to vote through the treaty without the EU intervention but they are getting more and more desperate ... and who would have thought, remain falling out with the EU over the Irish Border.

tick tock.....
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22-10-2019, 12:39 PM
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The problem the EU have is that the new Withdrawal Agreement looks quite toxic now because it puts Northern Ireland in 2 different customs unions and builds a virtual hard border, thus breaching the GFA. And to think, Varadkar is in favour of it ... tut tut, snap election for him methinks

If the EU now grant an extension it would be to approve the WA and violate the GFA ... what a dilemma !

But if the EU really want no involvement in the violation of the GFA then refusing us an extension to try and force the approval through the commons would be the way to go (this or no deal on Oct 31st). Unfortunately, this would satisfy the Benn Act and Boris could then either get his party to vote down the WA and go for a no deal or withdraw it altogether.

But there again, the EU could hold off making a decision and make it at the last minute - but if they did that then they would be doing a last minute violation of the GFA and there would be no time for labour to try and ram through legislation for a second referendum with the WA - it might even get pulled because its not meaningful again (just like last time).

Looks like its game over for remain - the EU will start handbagging them in the commons soon to try and get the UK parliament to vote through the treaty without the EU intervention but they are getting more and more desperate ... and who would have thought, remain falling out with the EU over the Irish Border.

tick tock.....

How does the BoJo proposal breach the GFA? Show us the articles and references.
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22-10-2019, 12:45 PM
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Re: Farage U turn

Originally Posted by Solasch ->
After discussing the johnson extension request in chambers, with meps from different signature, also from brexit party, donald tusk concluded that the request should be treated quite seriously. Thank you brexit party for this contribution to extending UK mennbership.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics...exit-extension
I think Nigel Farage position is he doesn't want the BoJo deal because he specifically wants a no deal or clean break as he calls it.
If there is no "clean break" then there is no payout from his Russian backed friend Aaron Banks and best buddy Donald Trump.

Hip hip hurray for "man of the people" Nigel Farage
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22-10-2019, 12:47 PM
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Also if there is not a no deal on Aug 31st all those billionaire hedge fund owners shorting the pound will lose money. LOL
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22-10-2019, 12:51 PM
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How does the BoJo proposal breach the GFA? Show us the articles and references.
It was mentioned yesterday by John McDonnell. The bit about the 2 customs unions and the customs papers needed in Northern Ireland was discussed with Stephen Barclay yesterday as well.

Now go and do your own research I'm not doing your arguing for you.
 
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