09-10-2019, 09:00 PM
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Reading unfounded criticisms of Nigel Farage on here, I thought it might be interesting to post this to demonstrate what an excellent and heartfelt speaker he is.https://www.facebook.com/nigelfarage...group_activity
What a change he could make if only he could be elected to serve in the House of Commons!
09-10-2019, 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Solasch
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Some leavers use it as a technique to divert from the fact that their previous posts were sabred down.Farage is presented as a man from the people, but he is for a select few. Same in this matter. Open borders not for everybody, but only a select number of islanders.
There is already a VAT, currency border between the north and south.
The EU has nothing to do with the GFA
The common travel area has nothing to do with the EU
The GFA only mentions a border in passing (in fact a border is only mentioned once I think), there is no mention of hard borders between the north and the south
The GFA has nothing to do with EU membership
Northern Ireland exports into the republic account for about 0.2% off total EU imports... its nothing
The Irish border is an issue that has been invented by the EU. It has nothing to do with economics but everything to do with politics.
Even the EU has the solution to the Irish Border documented on its own web site - Smart Border 2.0 and recommends an e-border as the solution.
0.2% of EU trade going from northern ireland into the republic amounts to no risk whatsoever to the single market.
Its all a big hoax ....
09-10-2019, 09:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Bread
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The WTO does not require a hard border in irelandThere is already a VAT, currency border between the north and south.
The EU has nothing to do with the GFA
The common travel area has nothing to do with the EU
The GFA only mentions a border in passing (in fact a border is only mentioned once I think), there is no mention of hard borders between the north and the south
The GFA has nothing to do with EU membership
Northern Ireland exports into the republic account for about 0.2% off total EU imports... its nothing
The Irish border is an issue that has been invented by the EU. It has nothing to do with economics but everything to do with politics.
Even the EU has the solution to the Irish Border documented on its own web site - Smart Border 2.0 and recommends an e-border as the solution.
0.2% of EU trade going from northern ireland into the republic amounts to no risk whatsoever to the single market.
Its all a big hoax ....
09-10-2019, 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Solasch
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And still the UK hasn't been able to push it through in all this time. If it is not for weakness of the arguments, it must be weakness of farage when it comes to the crunch?
Varadkar can make life for the republic as difficult as he wants all he needs to do is keep waving his dick around in front of his unelected masters .
All he needs to do is keep ignoring solutions - it makes him look like a little jug eared idiot.
Tick tock tick tock
10-10-2019, 06:32 AM
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Originally Posted by JBR
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Reading unfounded criticisms of Nigel Farage on here, I thought it might be interesting to post this to demonstrate what an excellent and heartfelt speaker he is.https://www.facebook.com/nigelfarage...group_activity
What a change he could make if only he could be elected to serve in the House of Commons!
Farage is economical with the truth and is message is no less toxic than Mosley’s which is probably why he has failed to get elected as a MP on several occasions
10-10-2019, 07:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Reality1
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Irrelevant. I am talking about the UK EU border which your hero Nigel Farage says will be completely open and NO NEED for a UK passport.
The Common travel area has been in place for much longer and it's part of our special and unique relationship with the Irish people.
This is totally compatible with leaving the EU because our overall relationship with Ireland is more important than with the EU.
Any true Brit woud understand that.
10-10-2019, 08:20 AM
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So, the bottom line is that whether the UK is in the EU or not is largely irrelevant in terms of how ROI/NI functions since it is relatively inconsequential?On the subject of the GFA, although I've never read it, I can't recall any mention of the fact that joint membership of the EU happily now made this possible compared to pre 1st Jan 1973.
10-10-2019, 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Moscow
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Just as it should be and has been for decades.The Common travel area has been in place for much longer and it's part of our special and unique relationship with the Irish people.
This is totally compatible with leaving the EU because our overall relationship with Ireland is more important than with the EU.
Any true Brit woud understand that.
It is the UK deciding leaving the EU without any prior consideration of the implications to the GFA that has caused this issue
The Government has had 3 years to figure out a tech solution and has yet to come up with any viable solution
The only real solution To the open boarder issue is the reunification of Ireland or an Irexit both of which then brings with them many other issues
10-10-2019, 12:01 PM
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Just suppose we left with a clean break as Nigel call's it. What happens on day 2 when our businesses are hit with tariffs and his plan is to delay the UK from applying import duties? How long will that continue? He has had decades to think up a detailed plan and yet he has NOTHING just puerile rhetoric.Why is that? Because on day 2 he gets his payout from his billionaire friends and leaves the UK that is his detailed plan.
10-10-2019, 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Reality1
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Just suppose we left with a clean break as Nigel call's it. What happens on day 2 when our businesses are hit with tariffs and his plan is to delay the UK from applying import duties? How long will that continue? He has had decades to think up a detailed plan and yet he has NOTHING just puerile rhetoric.Why is that? Because on day 2 he gets his payout from his billionaire friends and leaves the UK that is his detailed plan.
Conspiracy theory ..... again
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