19-01-2020, 12:32 PM
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Re: No Alignment with EU
Originally Posted by Bread
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They aren't completed or ratified, unless they have been in the last couple of weeks
Many have been in force for years.
19-01-2020, 01:50 PM
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Re: No Alignment with EU
Originally Posted by Bread
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Yes but they are only partly implemented and in a lot of cases they are a bit of a one way streetIn the case of canada trade actually reduced
Rubbish, the EU and it's FTAs are the biggest Trading Block in the World.
My reasons for voting leave were not Financial.
They were about self determination.
It was always going to hurt for a while.
I have no wish at all to swap Merkel for Trump.
Anyone who thinks it will not hurt is an idiot.
Even our Government says it will hurt.
How much and how long for depends on Boris and his negotiating skills
I wish him well, lots of my friends jobs depend upon it.
19-01-2020, 02:51 PM
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Re: No Alignment with EU
Originally Posted by swimfeeders
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HiRubbish, the EU and it's FTAs are the biggest Trading Block in the World.
My reasons for voting leave were not Financial.
They were about self determination.
It was always going to hurt for a while.
I have no wish at all to swap Merkel for Trump.
Anyone who thinks it will not hurt is an idiot.
Even our Government says it will hurt.
How much and how long for depends on Boris and his negotiating skills
I wish him well, lots of my friends jobs depend upon it.
Those FTAs are not ratified or completed ... only those in the single market. Most of the trade deals the EU have benefit the 27 much more than us. In fact the UK gets the least benefit out of the single market than the 27 anyway
When we leave, if you look at Canada as an example, a third of its trade is with the UK alone. Expect countries luke Canada, Japan, South Korea etc wanting to renegotiate their terms with the EU. After all the big chunks of trade that they will get from us outside the EU makes the EU deals look very one sided and poor.
MERCUSOR is another FTA that isn't ratified either, I had forgotten about that one.
So, do we need an FTA with the EU ? In my opinion, "no", only a series of bilateral agreements for everything that benefits the UK.
19-01-2020, 03:06 PM
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Re: No Alignment with EU
Originally Posted by Bread
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When we leave, if you look at Canada as an example, a third of its trade is with the UK alone.
Canada's*Top*Trading Partners
United States: US$338.2 billion (75% of total*Canadian*exports)
China: $21.3 billion (4.7%)
United Kingdom: $12.6 billion (2.8%)
Japan: $10 billion (2.2%)
Mexico: $6.3 billion (1.4%)
South Korea: $4.5 billion (1%)
Germany: $3.72 billion (0.8%)
Netherlands: $3.67 billion (0.8%)
19-01-2020, 03:25 PM
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Re: No Alignment with EU
Originally Posted by Solasch
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And another "non-truth", at least 2.8% is not a third.Canada's*Top*Trading Partners
United States: US$338.2 billion (75% of total*Canadian*exports)
China: $21.3 billion (4.7%)
United Kingdom: $12.6 billion (2.8%)
Japan: $10 billion (2.2%)
Mexico: $6.3 billion (1.4%)
South Korea: $4.5 billion (1%)
Germany: $3.72 billion (0.8%)
Netherlands: $3.67 billion (0.8%)
A third of the EU trade ... is with the UK, I should have made that clearer but we are also the top 3 in the world (looking at your figures)
19-01-2020, 03:37 PM
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Re: No Alignment with EU
Originally Posted by Bread
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MERCUSOR is another FTA that isn't ratified either, I had forgotten about that one.
19-01-2020, 05:00 PM
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Re: No Alignment with EU
Originally Posted by Solasch
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It took 20 years to negotiate, so far. And here comes boris, stating he will achieve the same in half a year. Boy, oh boy.
We don't have to get agreement from 28 countries.
Its takes the EU so long because they are useless .
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