21-01-2020, 03:45 PM
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Re: Brexit and Fishing
Originally Posted by Solasch
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Your friends from greenpeace confirm my statement and denounce yours.Government Fisheries Bill – Greenpeace response
Government fails to confirm that fishing opportunities will be shared fairly on transparent environmental, social and economic criteria
https://www.greenpeace.org.uk/news/g...eace-response/
If you think Greenpeace support the CFP then, quite frankly, your off your head
and if your actually read their article you will find they have turned into AntiFa
21-01-2020, 04:44 PM
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Re: Brexit and Fishing
Originally Posted by Solasch
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Thank you for denouncing post # 14 by donkeyman.
21-01-2020, 05:01 PM
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Re: Brexit and Fishing
Originally Posted by Bread
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DM was asking "why not Green Peace ?" contributing to UK environmental policies in his post - what's wrong with that ?
but the fishermans organisations direct them what to pass etc?
I am sure the fishermen will follow scientific guidelines in this?
Those scientific guidelines are proposed by greenpeace and others. They say less fishing, make sactuaries for fish.
Your answer to all this: they don't make the policy, we do.
So much for DM proposal of guidelines followed by fishermen, dictating what politicians can promulgate.
21-01-2020, 05:22 PM
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Re: Brexit and Fishing
Originally Posted by Solasch
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DM said: they (politicians) can promulgate laws and pass them into lawbut the fishermans organisations direct them what to pass etc?
I am sure the fishermen will follow scientific guidelines in this?
Those scientific guidelines are proposed by greenpeace and others. They say less fishing, make sactuaries for fish.
Your answer to all this: they don't make the policy, we do.
So much for DM proposal of guidelines followed by fishermen, dictating what politicians can promulgate.
Can you stop your nonsense please ? Its getting really boring and your just wasting my time.
21-01-2020, 05:45 PM
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Re: Brexit and Fishing
Originally Posted by Bread
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Fishermans organisations ? What are these you are on about now ?Can you stop your nonsense please ? Its getting really boring and your just wasting my time.
For the time being you sre best helped here: https://www.futurelearn.com/courses/...tical-thinking
22-01-2020, 05:12 PM
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Re: Brexit and Fishing
Originally Posted by Solasch
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DM said: they (politicians) can promulgate laws and pass them into lawbut the fishermans organisations direct them what to pass etc?
I am sure the fishermen will follow scientific guidelines in this?
Those scientific guidelines are proposed by greenpeace and others. They say less fishing, make sactuaries for fish.
Your answer to all this: they don't make the policy, we do.
So much for DM proposal of guidelines followed by fishermen, dictating what politicians can promulgate.
I will break it down for you to make it easier for you!
1/ enviroment & science set the parameters of sustainable fishing
practice.
2/ The fishing community debate the methods etc of maintaining
these parameters and allocating the share of the catch
3/ Advise gov of their decisions and what they need to do to achieve
these objectives. Gov then legislates and passes this into law!
What could be simpler?
If the enviromental factors cause the catches to decrease, so be it!
Thats the idea!
Donkeyman!
22-01-2020, 05:43 PM
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Re: Brexit and Fishing
You can guarantee that countries such as France, Spain, Denmark, Netherlands, Sweden and Belgium, who all depend on the rich pickings from UK fishing grounds, will be fighting hard to retain their generous EU quotas. France especially from their largest fishing port, Boulgne-sur-Mer, spend 80% of their time in UK waters. They aren’t going to give that up easily. It would make me laugh if I wasn’t so angry, When negotiations were taking place in 1973, haughty France, who never wanted us to join in the first place, were objecting to us joining all through the negotiations - until the subject of fishing rights came up and they realised they would benefit the most from the rich picking from our waters.As I see it, if Boris gives in or defers the decision over our fishing rights by the end of 2020, he needn’t think he will sail though. I can definitely see Scottish Tory MP’s who support fishing ports, causing mayhem for him. Fishing rights in the trade negotiations is going to be bloody and very toxic. The word RAGE will come to the fore from both sides.
Get your tin helmets on!
23-01-2020, 02:52 AM
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Re: Brexit and Fishing
Originally Posted by shropshiregirl
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You can guarantee that countries such as France, Spain, Denmark, Netherlands, Sweden and Belgium, who all depend on the rich pickings from UK fishing grounds, will be fighting hard to retain their generous EU quotas. France especially from their largest fishing port, Boulgne-sur-Mer, spend 80% of their time in UK waters. They aren’t going to give that up easily. It would make me laugh if I wasn’t so angry, When negotiations were taking place in 1973, haughty France, who never wanted us to join in the first place, were objecting to us joining all through the negotiations - until the subject of fishing rights came up and they realised they would benefit the most from the rich picking from our waters.As I see it, if Boris gives in or defers the decision over our fishing rights by the end of 2020, he needn’t think he will sail though. I can definitely see Scottish Tory MP’s who support fishing ports, causing mayhem for him. Fishing rights in the trade negotiations is going to be bloody and very toxic. The word RAGE will come to the fore from both sides.
Get your tin helmets on!
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