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OK but this has been going on for years. If it hasn't been voted on before, it's certainly been talked about a lot over the years.
It became the rule in 2017 that non UK residents have to pay .
Doctors in fact are by not keeping to this rule are defrauding the tax payer .
It's easy of course when it isn't your money
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26-06-2019, 09:14 PM
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I suppose there are many ways of doing it, but GPs are the last people who should be doing it.
Totally! You only get 15 mins if you are lucky why would you want to waste half of that checking a passport? Imagine the queues at the surgery. They are bad enough already.

This is typical muddling of facts to distract people from the real problems. Swim has pointed those out but why are they never in the rags?
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Re: Doctors say it is Racist to charge NHS Health Tourists!

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I suppose there are many ways of doing it, but GPs are the last people who should be doing it.
Deliberate obtuseness

It's a clerks job and they have clerks receptionists hospital administrators .
The same as they do in any country .
What part of this is difficult to understand ?

They do it all over Europe -we are the only country who doesn't collect the reciprocal payments all others do .
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26-06-2019, 09:16 PM
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Re: Doctors say it is Racist to charge NHS Health Tourists!

Originally Posted by Muddy ->
It became the rule in 2017 that non UK residents have to pay .
Doctors in fact are by not keeping to this rule are defrauding the tax payer .
It's easy of course when it isn't your money
That's completely untrue. It's not the responsibility of doctors. Is it in their contracts that they should be border guards?
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26-06-2019, 09:17 PM
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Re: Doctors say it is Racist to charge NHS Health Tourists!

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If they check passports they can ask to see insurance at the same time, no extra staff needed surely.
If you go to the USA one person checks everything including who you are staying with and how you are supporting yourself while in their country, takes a few minutes.
Hi

Tessa, the USA system is very different to the UK System.

You need to pre declare electronically, we do not have this.

We are stupid, we have just abolished Landing Cards, so do not even check where they are staying.

We do not routinely check financial status.

The USA have an electronic system to do that, we do.

We do not even check leavers against arrivals.

You can come here as a Tourist and then stay.

We do not check Leavers, others do.

An example.

A Polish woman was wanted here in the UK for a serious offence.

She got a Ryanair to Lodz, left the UK no problem.

The Polish checked her on arrival and returned her to the UK.

Our Border Security is an International Joke.
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26-06-2019, 09:19 PM
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Re: Doctors say it is Racist to charge NHS Health Tourists!

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That's completely untrue. It's not the responsibility of doctors. Is it in their contracts that they should be border guards?

They are breaking the law and last time I checked Doctors are not above the law.
The NHS pays for their expertise and their time .
It not theirs to give out for free.
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26-06-2019, 09:23 PM
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Re: Doctors say it is Racist to charge NHS Health Tourists!

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Deliberate obtuseness

It's a clerks job and they have clerks receptionists hospital administrators .
The same as they do in any country .
What part of this is difficult to understand ?

They do it all over Europe -we are the only country who doesn't collect the reciprocal payments all others do .
Is that one of the responsibilities in the GP contract?
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26-06-2019, 09:25 PM
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Re: Doctors say it is Racist to charge NHS Health Tourists!

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They are breaking the law and last time I checked Doctors are not above the law.
The NHS pays for their expertise and their time .
It not theirs to give out for free.
Which law? The hospital doctors have contracts. Are they contracted as border guards or medics? How are they breaking the law exactly?
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26-06-2019, 09:28 PM
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Re: Doctors say it is Racist to charge NHS Health Tourists!

If they've are paid by the NHS they are paid by the taxpayer .
They are not paid by the tax payer to heal the worlds sick

If they wish to do that they can join Medicin Sans Frontiere.
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26-06-2019, 09:30 PM
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Re: Doctors say it is Racist to charge NHS Health Tourists!

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They are breaking the law and last time I checked Doctors are not above the law.
The NHS pays for their expertise and their time .
It not theirs to give out for free.
Hi

Muddy, we are very short of Doctors and Nurses.

I want their time spent on treating those who need it.

It is the system which is wrong.

It is the stupidly highly paid NHS Executives who are at fault.

They should have their pay cut if they do not recharge.

Blame the system, not those on the frontline.
 
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