27-01-2019, 03:33 PM
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Re: The little french poison dwarf
Originally Posted by Realist
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I must have missed it. Can you point to a copy of that EU Deal?
Did parliament vote on it just as they recently voted on "May's" (cough) deal?
https://www.parlementairemonitor.nl/...k8zrn2qz&tab=1
27-01-2019, 04:35 PM
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Re: The little french poison dwarf
Originally Posted by Realist
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We want no part of it.
We do not want to live in a Federal States Of Europe police state where our basic hard fought rights and freedoms like "Innocent Until Proved Guilty" (Habeus Corpus) are going to be removed and replaced with police state powers of "Guilty Until Proven Innocent" (Corpus Juris).
It starts by divorcing ourselves from the EU and then restoring the British Constitution, removing EU operatives from our government and so on.
There will, I am certain, be civil unrest or even war if the powers that be now deny the people this divorce now that they have woken up and seen the spell/illusion shattered.
Understand we want no part of the EU any more. It is over.
We will not be ruled by the EU megalomaniacs or its ECJ.
Specifically an agreement for the UK to take "necessary restrictive measures" against individuals deemed to represent "a genuine and serious threat" to public safety, even if they do not pose an "imminent" threat to security. Taking a suspect's "past conduct" into account could be sufficient grounds to act.
So even if you have done no crime (you are innocent) you can still be incarcerated just because in the past you posted some anarchistic threats on a 50+ forum. Is that the corpis juris you are referring to?
27-01-2019, 07:50 PM
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Re: The little french poison dwarf
Regardless of the poor assertions by the EU stooges here the reality is that the good people of this country will never allow the EU idiots to implement their CORPUS JURIS here in the UK.British people for 100s of years have enjoyed the fundamental principle of "Innocent Until Proved Guilty"
It is a backbone of our justice system
It is only with the advent of being sold down the river into the EU and having our justice system overruled by the ECJ that this basic freedom is being threatened.
The EU tabled their "idea" of Corpus Juris some time ago. It was reviewed by our parliament and rightly thrown out.
Corpus Juris is the exact opposite of our Habeus Corpus.
People need to Google both these terms and understand what it is that the EU desires to implement.
Corpus Juris would allow an EU Police State to seize anyone off the street without any evidence, without any trial and incarcerate them for weeks, months or even years.
The poor victim would have to then prove their own innocence which would be pretty difficult to do whilst held behind bars.
Corpus Juris is nothing short of the Orwellian nightmare. The carte blanche desire to simple snatch people off the streets and throw them in jail with no evidence, trial or redress. It is the weapon of a totalitarian regime, a police state which desires to suppress its people, to stifle and silence all opposition, all protest.
If they were permitted to the EU would introduce this Corpus Juris by stealth, as they do all things imho. It would be brought in under the guise of combatting a specific type of crime or national threat, in this case it was to combat financial fraudsters. Once established its scope would then be widened to the rest of the populous and then bingo, you have your police state.
This is NOT a society that the UK people want imho. Many don't currently have any clue about Corpus Juris.
They still think that their fundamental rights of "Innocent Until Proved Guilty" will continue infinitely.
Within the EU, it wouldn't. Those fundamental freedoms would be lost.
We must ask ourselves why the EU would wish to bring in such freedom destroying measures. What kind of union is it becoming?
It is clearly important we get out whilst we can
It is vital that we fight for our freedoms, as the people of this country have always done.
27-01-2019, 09:00 PM
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Re: The little french poison dwarf
Originally Posted by Realist
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Empty assertion then. Poor show
If that happens I honesty think people will take to the streets in their millions in protest and I think we will see very different protests to those we have seen from the Remainers.
The UK's only course of action is to remove the EU operatives within government and put in their place true politicians who will dutifully represent the needs of the country and the wishes of its people.
That requires a revolution of some kind. I would say that civil unrest is absolutely inevitable and will likely happen on an unprecedented scale all over the country simultaneously. There is no way at all that our police forces will be able to cope.
It will be a dire time. The military will be drafted in and doubtless will be told to shoot people or seriously hurt them with the wide variety of crowd control weapons that have in the wings.
I would say that we have no further use for the monarchy and that it has betrayed the people of the UK badly.
Talk of civil unrest is inevitable when a country is either invaded either directly or by stealth. It is the latter in our case. If that's your vision for the UK then seek a home elsewhere imo or be prepared for the civil outfall.
If you choose to ignore the result, civil unrest will follow as night follows day. If we don't have a democracy, then mob rule is as good as any other system.
Chaos is bound to ensue any time that honest democratic people attempt to wrest control of their country back from such dictators. To think otherwise is puerile. Labelling them as anarchists is frankly pathetic. Again shame on you !
27-01-2019, 09:10 PM
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Re: The little french poison dwarf
Originally Posted by Realist
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Regardless of the poor assertions by the EU stooges here the reality is that the good people of this country will never allow the EU idiots to implement their CORPUS JURIS here in the UK.British people for 100s of years have enjoyed the fundamental principle of "Innocent Until Proved Guilty"
It is a backbone of our justice system
The UK pressed the EU to include this in the treaty:
Specifically an agreement for the UK to take "necessary restrictive measures" against individuals deemed to represent "a genuine and serious threat" to public safety, even if they do not pose an "imminent" threat to security. Taking a suspect's "past conduct" into account could be sufficient grounds to act.
So you can be held prisoner while being innocent. But you have to prove you have committed no crime.
The winds they are achanging in the UK, my friend.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...-actually-got/
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27-01-2019, 09:16 PM
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Re: The little french poison dwarf
Originally Posted by Solasch
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Good that this forum has a search function!
Your text shows the simple view that if you attempt to destroy the system of democracy, civil unrest is highly likely to ensue. It doesn't take a genius to realise this.
If a burglar breaks into a happy home and threatens the family one can predict that the family members might take up arms (whatever is to hand) and fight to defend themselves.
Making this simple prediction in no suggests one condones the violence.
I find your threats as sick as they are laughable.
27-01-2019, 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Solasch
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The UK pressed the EU to include this in the treaty:
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