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06-02-2019, 11:09 AM
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Re: The Dover Proposal.

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I know...

He has just realised as well that if he has a hard border in Ireland then the UK (well, Northern Ireland) will control everything going into and out of the republic.

... slow hand claps all around
And queues in Holyhead , Liverpool , heysham, Scotland, and other ports feeding Ireland .... then larger queues for Irish trucks again at Dover ... then of course tariffs on everything Ireland imports from England .... I imagine we will place tariffs on Irish goods here and as their biggest customer that increases the price of Irish butter .... honestly , you couldn’t make it up after two years of shouting loudest that the EU should punish the uk he now and only now realised he is shooting himself in the head ..
Said it before and il say it again ... if anything for prosperity EIRE should for economic reasons have done brexit alongside us !!!!!
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06-02-2019, 11:51 AM
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Re: The Dover Proposal.

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And queues in Holyhead , Liverpool , Scotland, and other poets feeding Ireland .... then larger queues for Irish trucks again at Dover ... then of course tariffs on everything Ireland imports from England .... I imagine we will place tariffs on Irish goods here and as their biggest customer that increases the price of Irish butter .... honestly , you couldn’t make it up after two years of shouting loudest that the EU should punish the uk he now and only now realised he is shooting himself in the head ..
Said it before and il say it again ... if anything for prosperity EIRE should for economic reasons have done brexit alongside us !!!!!
Don't forget O'Leary and his management of the worst airline in the world. He should have been complaining to the EU about open skies instead of the UK.
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06-02-2019, 12:19 PM
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Re: The Dover Proposal.

Originally Posted by Bread ->
I know...

He has just realised as well that if he has a hard border in Ireland then the UK (well, Northern Ireland) will control everything going into and out of the republic.

... slow hand claps all around
After brexit only goods originating from the UK will pass the border between the two irelands. Goods from the other EU members will bypass the UK to avoid the tariffs between EU-UK and between UK-EU. Going through the UK would mean paying tariffs twice, once leaving france entering UK and once leaving UK entering Ireland.
So the ports of ireland will get very busy.
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06-02-2019, 12:32 PM
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Re: The Dover Proposal.

Originally Posted by Solasch ->
After brexit only goods originating from the UK will pass the border between the two irelands. Goods from the other EU members will bypass the UK to avoid the tariffs between EU-UK and between UK-EU. Going through the UK would mean paying tariffs twice, once leaving france entering UK and once leaving UK entering Ireland.
So the ports of ireland will get very busy.
And the shipping lines doing this new Irish /EU sailing are?

I’m all for it , less Irish trucks thundering across our roads so I guess brexit also has a green spin off for the uk too ... win win

However as always I think you are talking garbage but time will tell
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06-02-2019, 01:19 PM
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Re: The Dover Proposal.

Well well well it appears be careful what you wish for Ireland as hard Brexit looks ever more the reality


EU chief says there's a 'special place in hell' for Brexiteers
https://mol.im/a/6673107

Donald Tusk said there must be a 'special place in hell for those who promoted Brexit' without a plan for the Irish border today.
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06-02-2019, 01:39 PM
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Re: The Dover Proposal.

Originally Posted by Solasch ->
After brexit only goods originating from the UK will pass the border between the two irelands. Goods from the other EU members will bypass the UK to avoid the tariffs between EU-UK and between UK-EU. Going through the UK would mean paying tariffs twice, once leaving france entering UK and once leaving UK entering Ireland.
So the ports of ireland will get very busy.

How will they do that ? Through our territorial waters or through our UK airspace ?


Why would you pay tariffs twice ? Haven't you heard of country of origin etc ?
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06-02-2019, 02:43 PM
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Re: The Dover Proposal.

Originally Posted by marmaduke ->
EU chief says there's a 'special place in hell' for Brexiteers
https://mol.im/a/6673107

Donald Tusk said there must be a 'special place in hell for those who promoted Brexit' without a plan for the Irish border today.
He's just saying what in a few weeks time millions in the UK will be shouting.
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06-02-2019, 02:44 PM
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Re: The Dover Proposal.

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How will they do that ? Through our territorial waters or through our UK airspace ?


Why would you pay tariffs twice ? Haven't you heard of country of origin etc ?
Very good of you to observe that there will be problems gallore after brexit.
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06-02-2019, 02:48 PM
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Re: The Dover Proposal.

Originally Posted by marmaduke ->
Just been listening to the Irish PM on the radio this morning and talk about thick , after threatening everything from banning aircraft overflying Ireland ( something he couldn’t do anyway ) then being told Irish aircraft overfly the uk !!!
To talking up demanding the backstop hard border , he now realises that no deal by default gives him a hard border in a few weeks time and as pointed out to him for the past two years IRELAND MAY GO BUST DUE TO THE HARD LINE EU has taken ... Ireland will feel brexit and all the restrictions HE WANTED placed on us far more than the uk will and is asking the EU to soften its stance !!!!!

You couldn’t make it up if you tried
Having watched the latest episode of the programme "Inside Europe: Ten Years of Turmoil" on Monday night I now get the picture...
Nothing matters to the leaders in the EU except for the preservation of the European Project . They really don't give a dam about anything else and they will attempt to crush anything or anybody who gets in the way of their commitment to the EU and that includes Brits who have the audacity to dare to want to leave it.

Originally Posted by marmaduke ->
Well well well it appears be careful what you wish for Ireland as hard Brexit looks ever more the reality


EU chief says there's a 'special place in hell' for Brexiteers
https://mol.im/a/6673107

Donald Tusk said there must be a 'special place in hell for those who promoted Brexit' without a plan for the Irish border today.
Tusk is showing his true colours there, the mask has slipped..
A bad move on his part because he will create more determination and resentment from the Brits.
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06-02-2019, 02:55 PM
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Re: The Dover Proposal.

Originally Posted by Meg ->
Having watched the latest episode of the programme "Inside Europe: Ten Years of Turmoil" on Monday night I now get the picture...
Nothing matters to the leaders in the EU except for the preservation of the European Project . They really don't give a dam about anything else and they will attempt to crush anything or anybody who gets in the way of their commitment to the EU and that includes Brits who have the audacity to dare to want to leave it.



Tusk is showing his true colours there, the mask has slipped..
A bad move on his part because he will create more determination and resentment from the Brits.
Is this a programme by the bbc? The broadcasting comp that is pro remain, pro EU, that has no credibility with brexiteers? Why believe what they tell you now?
 
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