20-03-2019, 11:29 AM
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Re: A short extension to Article 50 likely ( Latest events on leaving the EU March 20th)
Originally Posted by Meg
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No I am not confused 
May has tried to accommodate as many people as possible by getting some sort of agreement, the problem is the one we have arrived at suits no one.
We still don't have a majority in parliment for anything including leaving by default on 29th.
The whole thing got off on the wrong foot from the start with the EU wanting a withdrawal agreement and payment before we actually discuss any trade agreements.
20-03-2019, 12:01 PM
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Re: A short extension to Article 50 likely ( Latest events on leaving the EU March 20th)
Originally Posted by Meg
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No I am not confused May has tried to accommodate as many people as possible by getting some sort of agreement, the problem is the one we have arrived at suits no one.
We still don't have a majority in parliment for anything including leaving by default on 29th.
The whole thing got off on the wrong foot from the start with the EU wanting a withdrawal agreement and payment before we actually discuss any trade agreements.
I agree on how we got here.
But don't we still have the default position,as specified by the EU to fall
back on, as parliaments voting down no deal was not a binding vote?
We just need the guts to let it happen.
I have no faith that the pretenders will allow this.
Best Regards, Donkeyman.
20-03-2019, 12:34 PM
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Re: A short extension to Article 50 likely ( Latest events on leaving the EU March 20th)
Originally Posted by Donkeyman
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Meg, l agree with your summing up of the situation facing us.I agree on how we got here.
But don't we still have the default position,as specified by the EU to fall
back on, as parliaments voting down no deal was not a binding vote?
We just need the guts to let it happen.
I have no faith that the pretenders will allow this.
Best Regards, Donkeyman.
yes we do still have the default position but I can't see it being allow to happen. As it stand it is still law and that would need to change but as I understand a 'statutory instrument' could be used to change the law at short notice.
20-03-2019, 12:47 PM
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Re: A short extension to Article 50 likely ( Latest events on leaving the EU March 20th)
Originally Posted by Bread
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Easiest solution is to get rid of May and replace her with Boris
A 50,be that march or may.
The only way to avert this is if, in the intervening period a UK gov
changes by moving exit date,this is currently being done.
Does not auger well for BREXIT.
As regards Boris& May we don't have time by march 29.
Best regards.Donkeyman.
20-03-2019, 02:03 PM
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Re: A short extension to Article 50 likely ( Latest events on leaving the EU March 20th)
Originally Posted by Meg
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The whole thing got off on the wrong foot from the start with the EU wanting a withdrawal agreement and payment before we actually discuss any trade agreements.
Leave and talks about a future trade deal with the EU can start.
20-03-2019, 02:08 PM
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Re: A short extension to Article 50 likely ( Latest events on leaving the EU March 20th)
May was just asked in pmq' s if automatic exiting would still bein effect at the end of any retension period.
She answered that would be up to the EU.
This !mplies that the default clause will fall away automatically.
and it will then be the case that we have to apply for it to be
reinstated. W.A.F.U.
Roll on November the 5th.
Donkeyman.
20-03-2019, 02:15 PM
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Re: A short extension to Article 50 likely ( Latest events on leaving the EU March 20th)
Originally Posted by Meg
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The latest news is we are to have a 3 month extention to take us to the end of June.Barnier said in his speech yesterday we can't have a long and a short extention it has to be one or the other .
It seems May (still) wants a third vote on her deal. My guess is that this will not sway the EU. The more since May also asks the EU to negotiate additions to the present deal to get it through the houses. That question has been answered several times now with a no.
So, no extension. Big question, what will parliament do? Accept a no deal brexit Or revoke article 50?
20-03-2019, 02:44 PM
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Re: A short extension to Article 50 likely ( Latest events on leaving the EU March 20th)
Originally Posted by Donkeyman
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May was just asked in pmq' s if automatic exiting would still be in effect at the end of any retension period.
She answered that would be up to the EU.
This !mplies that the default clause will fall away automatically.
and it will then be the case that we have to apply for it to be
reinstated. W.A.F.U.
Roll on November the 5th.
Donkeyman.
in 'The world at 1' Andrea Leadsome confirmed that leaving on 29th May is still the default position . I mentioned a statutory instrument to delay and I think that too requires a majority vote in parliament .
When the PM replied to the question saying that was up to the EU I took it she ment it depended if they would even grant an extention or agreed to/made other changes to the WA, she was not dismissing the default position of leaving with no deal at the end of the extended period.
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