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08-04-2021, 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted by AnnieS ->
Stalin is up there with killing more people than Hitler.
Err, not entirely. Stalin and the Soviet government was facing internal revolution. What was done had to be done.
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08-04-2021, 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by AnnieS ->
With the help of US arms and supplies :

400,000 jeeps and trucks
14,000 airplanes
8,000 tractors
13,000 tanks
More than 1.5 million blankets
15 million pairs of army boots
107,000 tons of cotton
2.7 million tons of petroleum products (to fuel airplanes, trucks, and tanks)
4.5 million tons of food
Also ammunition, explosives, copper, steel, aluminum, medicine, field radios, radar tools, books

Stalin quote from 1943 :

PS. Must have been the start of the special relationship ??
"“I want to tell you, from the Russian point of view, what the President and the United States have done to win the war. The most important things in this war are machines. The United States has proven that it can turn out from 8,000 to 10,000 airplanes per month. Russia can only turn out, at most, 3,000 airplanes a month. England turns out 3,000 to 3,500, which are principally heavy bombers. The United States, therefore, is a country of machines. Without the use of those machines, through Lend-Lease, we would lose this war.”

https://history.state.gov/historical...iroTehran/d353

Did Russia ever pay America back Annie ???
We had to ???
Just asking?

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PS.Must have been the start of the special relationship,. LOL!
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08-04-2021, 09:42 PM
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Re: World War II

Originally Posted by Donkeyman ->
Yes it's true America saved our bacon by supplying us with arms
etc bakerman, we were woefully un prepared for war early on!
If Hitler had invaded in the first year he would have over run UK
in 3 weeks?? The large British fleet he was scared of was mostly
old outdated and out classed but Hitler didn't know that ! The ships
and crews were not equipped to handle air attacks !!
I think the irony of WW2 Was that all the aid we received had to be
paid back after the war, whereas Germany was rebuilt by the allies !!

Work that one out ??
I agree. I have always regarded that as rather one-sided and never understood their decision.
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08-04-2021, 09:46 PM
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Re: World War II

Originally Posted by bakerman ->
In 1992, a statue of Sir Arthur Harris aka "Bomber Harris" was unveiled in London by Queen Elisabeth. The "SOME" I refer to in the above, jeered and shocked the Queen, by shouting "Harris was a war criminal". In fact, the statue had to be guarded for many months due to constant vandal attacks on it. Harris remains a controversial figure to this day.
i don't know for certain, but i suspect that those who jeered the Queen at the unveiling of Harris's statue were the young and uneducated people who had no 1st hand experience being "BLITZED".
Rather similar to the present day situation where pulling down statues is generally the forte of the young and uneducated!
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08-04-2021, 09:50 PM
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Rather similar to the present day situation where pulling down statues is generally the forte of the young and uneducated!
You need to edit that last bit JBR !!
Might l suggest a change to "over educated" ??

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08-04-2021, 09:51 PM
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Re: World War II

Originally Posted by big ben ->
Let us not forget that the Russians also played a major part in the defeat of Nazi Germany.
Didn't the Russians lose more men than any of the allies?
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08-04-2021, 09:52 PM
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Re: World War II

Originally Posted by Donkeyman ->
Did you see that on U tube Primus? LOL!
That lot against tiger tanks and junkers! Cor Blimey! Churchill must
have been desperate???

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It was a program on tv I watched a few years ago donks,
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08-04-2021, 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Donkeyman ->
Russia was the cause of the defeat of Nazi Germany Big Ben
You are right !!
Yes. If Hitler hadn't turned on Russia (he had a non-aggression pact), he could have overrun our country without too much difficulty.
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08-04-2021, 09:55 PM
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Re: World War II

Originally Posted by The Artful Todger ->
Harris WAS a war criminal. Of that there is no doubt.
In your opinion. In my opinion, he helped us to win the war.

But I suppose if you supported Hitler you might be forgiven for thinking that way.
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08-04-2021, 09:58 PM
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Re: World War II

Originally Posted by The Artful Todger ->
There's one hell of a lot there if it's used as a starting point.

But when it comes to the Nazi top table, in fairness not just us Yids.

Gypos, Poufters, assorted political opponents, lunatics, quite a few others beside.
Yet you can't provide undeniable proof.
 
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