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02-12-2019, 11:34 AM
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Re: Progress will be the death of us all.

Originally Posted by Donkeyman ->
Trouble is dOOd the appliances they make now dont last 50% as
long as they used to?
I remember the average car could last for 20yrs, and car batteries
commonly lasted 8yrs or more?
I believe they call it planned obsolescence, hope l spelled that right?
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Quite right Donkeyman, I remember washing machines lasting at least twenty years and most faults were easily remedied by the user. When buying our last machine the assistant told us that eight years would be the life expectancy of our new machine....
And repairs could only be carried out by a qualified engineer due to all the computerised stuff inside...Why?
All it does is agitate dirty clothes in hot water and then spin them dry.....It's not rocket science....
Over complicated appliances! One more example of 'Progress being the Death of us'....
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02-12-2019, 12:27 PM
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Re: Progress will be the death of us all.

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That's three Primus......

(1) By producing stronger chemicals and even adding supplements to work at lower temperatures to merely take the place of what hot water does naturally, to kill germs and get stuff clean, are we not further polluting our sewer and water systems? There are even natural methods for cleaning clothes in suitably hot water without the addition of washing powders. 'Lakeland' among others, produce a ball that can be added to the wash without the need for chemicals.

(2) In my experience all machines have a heating element and thermostatic control, even in the days of the old 'twin tub'. So even if the hot water had a long way to travel and had cooled down to some extent, it would still be far cheaper to heat up luke warm water than freezing cold water taken directly from the mains.

(3) By not including a 'Hot Fill' option.....Cheaper for who Primus?
Washing Machines still sell for the same price or are even more expensive.
So I suspect the saving in money is to increase the profits of the greedy manufacturers, and not a thought for saving the consumer money or the machines impact on the world.
Excellent counter argument. I'd go along with this, even though my boiler is some distance from the washing machine.

I also agree with your second post regarding the 'technological advances' made. To be honest, we almost always use the same setting which could therefore obviate the need for 'computer control' of temperature, time and God knows what else.

Cheaper to buy machines, more easily fixed, and gas is far cheaper than electricity for heating the water.

I'd buy one like that when ours turns its toes up.
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02-12-2019, 01:33 PM
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Re: Progress will be the death of us all.

The old cave man never had these problems. A quick tap on the bonce with a club sorted most of their problems out.
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