26-06-2019, 10:34 AM
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Re: 83 years and too old for treatment for a broken arm
You've got to be very careful with these DM stories. They want you to jump to the wrong conclusion.The article finishes with ....
‘Our MIUs can treat cuts and grazes, insect bites, minor burns, sprains and strains and limb injuries such as a broken ankle.
‘However, they are unable to treat more serious conditions such as complex fractures and this patient must have required to be seen in an accident and emergency department.
‘We are sorry for any confusion around where this patient should have been sent and that she was unhappy with the care she received.
‘We are happy to discuss this with her in more detail if she gets in touch.’
27-06-2019, 08:46 PM
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Re: 83 years and too old for treatment for a broken arm
Good grief! what is the world coming to.Reminds me of the time when I was still working and commuting at the age of 67. I was waiting on the platform to catch my commuter train to work in Telford. As it pulled in, it went further up the platform than it ever did, a door was right in front of me but unfortunately, it had been snowing and where the door was, no-one had gritted the platform. As I took a step forward, I slipped on the icy surface, and landed heavily on my left arm.
The pain was terrible, but it was my pride I was more worried about as the train was packed and everyone on board was just sitting there staring out at me.
Anyway to cut a long story short, the train staff were very nice and looked after me. When we reached Telford they escorted me into the Train managers office and called an ambulance out to take me to A&E.
I had never been to the Princess Royal Hospital in Telford before, and I cannot praise them enough. As soon as the paramedics took me into the waiting room, the nurse in charge was a replica of Florence Nightingale!
All the seats were full of people waiting so she brought a wheelchair for me to sit in, then a cup of tea! The look on the faces of the other people there was one of shock! when I had finished my lovely cuppa, she asked if I would like another! then to cap that off, they called me in next!
I had broken my wrist in two places, but they soon had me laughing again when he called in two nurses to hold me down while he reset one of the bones. They even had the kindness of phoning HWMO who was working 40 miles away, to come and pick me up and made sure I was comfortably seated in the waiting room again with a magazine.
So not all Hospitals are bad. and certainly not all Doctors and Nurses.
29-06-2019, 01:29 PM
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Re: 83 years and too old for treatment for a broken arm
Originally Posted by d00d
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It looks like it was a fracture (not a broken arm). I believe the brace is the normal treatment.
Anyway, quite apart from that, having read the Daily Mail article it appears that the receptionist made the decision that if you're over 65 you are too old!
Of course, I realise that it was a minor injuries unit, rather than A&E, but does that mean that they won't treat over-65s for minor injuries?
I can only say that, being over 65, I'm glad I don't live in Glasgow!
29-06-2019, 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by The Artful Todger
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I'm no particular fan of The Mail but I do scan it as a bit of a scandal sheet but this article does give me some cause for concernQuote ---
Hospital tells 83-year-old pensioner who broke arm in two places she is too OLD for treatment forcing apology from health chiefs
Doctors told her they would not see her because she was over 65-years-old
The pensioner was then taken to A&E, given a splint and then sent home
29-06-2019, 07:38 PM
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Re: 83 years and too old for treatment for a broken arm
Originally Posted by JBR
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Really? Could you explain to me what the difference is between a fracture and a break?Anyway, quite apart from that, having read the Daily Mail article it appears that the receptionist made the decision that if you're over 65 you are too old!
Of course, I realise that it was a minor injuries unit, rather than A&E, but does that mean that they won't treat over-65s for minor injuries?
I can only say that, being over 65, I'm glad I don't live in Glasgow!
In the real word, British English English, a fracture is a medical condition wherein there is a break in the continuity of the bone. It can be caused by stress, or an impact on the bones, or by medical conditions such as cancer and osteoporosis. A break is defined as “to crack or suddenly separate into pieces”. It is the same as a fracture. In fact, both terms are used in describing bone injuries. They differ in the severity of damage. While a fracture is minor, a break can be worse. A fracture also takes a shorter time to heal than a break and it is less painful. Broken bones need to be reset and enclosed in a cast. More force is applied to break a bone than to fracture it.
29-06-2019, 08:51 PM
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Re: 83 years and too old for treatment for a broken arm
Originally Posted by d00d
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In DM speak a break is a break is a fracture, ten out of ten for drama effective.In the real word, British English English, a fracture is a medical condition wherein there is a break in the continuity of the bone. It can be caused by stress, or an impact on the bones, or by medical conditions such as cancer and osteoporosis. A break is defined as “to crack or suddenly separate into pieces”. It is the same as a fracture. In fact, both terms are used in describing bone injuries. They differ in the severity of damage. While a fracture is minor, a break can be worse. A fracture also takes a shorter time to heal than a break and it is less painful. Broken bones need to be reset and enclosed in a cast. More force is applied to break a bone than to fracture it.
This is not the case. Fractures are of all levels of severity, from hairline fracture, greenstick fracture, etc. all the way to severe compound fractures.
The only difference in the two expressions, fracture and broken bone, is that the former is the correct medical term whereas the latter is the vernacular term.
I'm not being dramatic or trying to sound clever. I would like to ensure that readers are not confused by the terminology.
What is the source of your contradictory definition?
30-06-2019, 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by JBR
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A contradictory definition. A fracture is the same as a broken bone. Then it claims that the two are different with regard to severity.This is not the case. Fractures are of all levels of severity, from hairline fracture, greenstick fracture, etc. all the way to severe compound fractures.
The only difference in the two expressions, fracture and broken bone, is that the former is the correct medical term whereas the latter is the vernacular term.
I'm not being dramatic or trying to sound clever. I would like to ensure that readers are not confused by the terminology.
What is the source of your contradictory definition?
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