27-08-2019, 03:31 PM
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Re: It's Official! We don't have to pay the £39BN.
Originally Posted by shropshiregirl
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Who cares whether the Leftie Rag printed it first. The great thing is that it is what it is. The EU cannot make us pay £39bn for something it is not going to provide, and a facility of transition that we will not be using.The legal bills for future committments/pensions etc come to between £7bn and £9bn, this will be fully honoured with payment in the event of a no-deal. So if the EU then decides to get bolshy and refuse trade to the UK, it will be shown up for exactly what it is. a corrupt, bullying dictatorship, who will have a struggle to explain to the world of it's actions.
Over to you....
If not, stick with the express, in month's time you can read what happened today 😃
27-08-2019, 03:34 PM
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Re: It's Official! We don't have to pay the £39BN.
Originally Posted by shropshiregirl
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Who cares whether the Leftie Rag printed it first. The great thing is that it is what it is. The EU cannot make us pay £39bn for something it is not going to provide, and a facility of transition that we will not be using.Over to you....
27-08-2019, 05:14 PM
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Re: It's Official! We don't have to pay the £39BN.
The 39Billion has always been suspect since the early daysthat so called negotiations began when the initial estimates
of the proposed bill were, if l remember correctly, between
80 & 90 billion, which dropped almost overnight by approx
50% to the current amount of 39 billion!
A good example of what has been going on since France
condescended to allow uk to allow uk to join the club?
Imv blatent extortion and profiteering etc!
We will be well out of it if those sort of tricks have become
common practice in eu dealings??
Regards Donkeyman!
27-08-2019, 05:31 PM
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Re: It's Official! We don't have to pay the £39BN.
Originally Posted by Solasch
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It is refreshing to see you put so much believe in what oettinger, a german, says.
demanding that it was time that uk put its hand in its
pocket and paid its bar tab??
Got anything to say???
Donkeys never forgetl
But they have been known to forgive!!
Regards Donkeyman!
27-08-2019, 06:25 PM
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Re: It's Official! We don't have to pay the £39BN.
Originally Posted by Donkeyman
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Do you remember Solly, when byou and your ilk weredemanding that it was time that uk put its hand in its
pocket and paid its bar tab??
Got anything to say???
Donkeys never forgetl
But they have been known to forgive!!
Regards Donkeyman!
On the amount due I even started a thread: beware if hunt claims etc.
It's also enlightening to read what the UK said about this issue exactly a year ago:
https://www.independent.ie/business/...-37142397.html
27-08-2019, 06:29 PM
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Re: It's Official! We don't have to pay the £39BN.
Originally Posted by Solasch
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Of course you can leave the bar without paying, but as a defaulter you cannot come back for another drink. If the UK leaves without paying what they are due, they cannot come to negotiate a trade deal post brexit. Barnier has said as much months ago.On the amount due I even started a thread: beware if hunt claims etc.
It's also enlightening to read what the UK said about this issue exactly a year ago:
https://www.independent.ie/business/...-37142397.html
In fact come to think of it... what exactly are our tangible benefits if EU membership????
27-08-2019, 08:02 PM
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Re: It's Official! We don't have to pay the £39BN.
Originally Posted by shropshiregirl
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1/// Could someone explain what Boris means by "sticking to the withdrawal agreement, which includes the £39bn and the hated backstop" I hope it does not mean what I think it means.
Boris Johnson*is on course*for a major row with Conservative Brexiteers after Downing Street admitted*that he is only seeking*changes to*one part*of the current*Brexit*deal.*
No10 said the prime minister was only asking the EU to remove the controversial Northern Ireland backstop, which would keep the UK in a customs union with the EU if no other way is found to keep the Northern Ireland border open after Brexit.
Mr Johnson has said*that the current deal, negotiated*by Theresa May,*is*”dead”, but the admission that he is happy with the vast majority of the 585-page agreement will infuriate Brexiteers.
Asked whether the prime minister*supported the current deal if the backstop was removed, a*Downing Street spokesperson said: “We have been clear that the changes we are seeking relate to the backstop.”
She added: “The PM has had good*discussions*with EU leaders both last week in France and Germany and at the weekend [at the G7 summit in Biarritz]. There is a clear understanding now that the commitment*to leave on 31 October is absolute and that the PM*wants to do so with a deal.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...tm_medium=Feed
27-08-2019, 08:46 PM
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Re: It's Official! We don't have to pay the £39BN.
Originally Posted by Solasch
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You must be prescient!Boris Johnson*is on course*for a major row with Conservative Brexiteers after Downing Street admitted*that he is only seeking*changes to*one part*of the current*Brexit*deal.*
No10 said the prime minister was only asking the EU to remove the controversial Northern Ireland backstop, which would keep the UK in a customs union with the EU if no other way is found to keep the Northern Ireland border open after Brexit.
Mr Johnson has said*that the current deal, negotiated*by Theresa May,*is*”dead”, but the admission that he is happy with the vast majority of the 585-page agreement will infuriate Brexiteers.
Asked whether the prime minister*supported the current deal if the backstop was removed, a*Downing Street spokesperson said: “We have been clear that the changes we are seeking relate to the backstop.”
She added: “The PM has had good*discussions*with EU leaders both last week in France and Germany and at the weekend [at the G7 summit in Biarritz]. There is a clear understanding now that the commitment*to leave on 31 October is absolute and that the PM*wants to do so with a deal.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...tm_medium=Feed
U turn by Boris!
He is definitly leaning towards resurrecting the thrice rejected
WA but with the required substantial amendments to allow
POSHOC to reconsider passing it this time?
If he succeeds in this he could well garner enough support
for him to survive future divisions in POSHOC?
If he manages this it will also weaken Nigels position imo?
So many options? What a state to be in!
Regards Donkeyman!
27-08-2019, 08:53 PM
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Re: It's Official! We don't have to pay the £39BN.
Originally Posted by shropshiregirl
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Jean-Claude Paris, a former head of the European Commission’s legal service, said: “If the UK refuses to pay its debts to the EU, then the EU will not accept to negotiate a trade agreement with the UK.”
What exactly do we owe £7 billion for?
Can it be for the infrastructure in Brussels and Strasbourg we have contributed to?
Can it be for the many rules that have been imposed on us?
Can it be for our contributions, financial and scientific, to the development of the Galileo project that we shall have no use of after we have left?
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