13-09-2019, 09:02 AM
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Beware the Lisbon Treaty...
..“What will actually happen if we stay in the EU” is a question no remainer will ever answer, but here it is warts and all with the Lisbon Treaty to commence 2020...Check it out if you wish ——>>
1: The UK along with all existing members of the EU lose their abstention veto in 2020 as laid down in the Lisbon Treaty when the system changes to that of majority acceptance with no abstentions or veto’s being allowed.
2: All member nations will become states of the new federal nation of the EU by 2022 as clearly laid out in the Lisbon treaty with no exceptions or veto’s.
3: All member states must adopt the Euro by 2022 and any new member state must do so within 2 years of joining the EU as laid down in the Lisbon treaty.
4: The London stock exchange will move to Frankfurt in 2020 and be integrated into the EU stock exchange resulting in a loss of 200,000 plus jobs in the UK because of the relocation. (This has already been pre-agreed and is only on a holding pattern due to the Brexit negotiations, which if Brexit does happen, the move is fully cancelled - but if not and the UK remains a member it’s full steam ahead for the move.)
5: The EU Parliament and ECJ become supreme over all legislative bodies of the UK.
6: The UK will adopt 100% of whatever the EU Parliament and ECJ lays down without any means of abstention or veto, negating the need for the UK to have the Lords or even the Commons as we know it today.
7: The UK will NOT be able to make its own trade deals.
8: The UK will NOT be able to set its own trade tariffs.
9 The UK will NOT be able to set its own trade quotas.
10: The UK loses control of its fishing rights
11: The UK loses control of its oil and gas rights
12: The UK loses control of its borders and enters the Schengen region by 2022 - as clearly laid down in the Lisbon treaty
13: The UK loses control of its planning legislation
14: The UK loses control of its armed forces including its nuclear deterrent
15: The UK loses full control of its taxation policy
16: The UK loses the ability to create its own laws and to implement them
17: The UK loses its standing in the Commonwealths
18: The UK loses control of any provinces or affiliated nations e.g.: Falklands, Cayman Islands, Gibraltar etc
19: The UK loses control of its judicial system
20: The UK loses control of its international policy
21: The UK loses full control of its national policy
22: The UK loses its right to call itself a nation in its own right.
23: The UK loses control of its space exploration program
24: The UK loses control of its Aviation and Sea lane jurisdiction
25: The UK loses its rebate in 2020 as laid down in the Lisbon treaty
26: The UK’s contribution to the EU is set to increase by an average of 1.2bn pa and by 2.3bn pa by 2020
This is the future that the youth of today think we stole from them?
They should be on their knees thanking us for saving them from being turned into Orwellian automatons!
Forget Deals no deals its time for remainers and brexiteers to unite and see whats coming before its to late. This is the whole reason they are dragging out the brexit process, so we can get to 2020 then we have no choices anynore.
13-09-2019, 09:47 AM
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Re: Beware the Lisbon Treaty...
This link contradicts.https://fullfact.org/europe/viral-li...-treaty-wrong/
Still believe UK should leave.
13-09-2019, 09:58 AM
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Re: Beware the Lisbon Treaty...
Originally Posted by Cinderella
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This link contradicts.https://fullfact.org/europe/viral-li...-treaty-wrong/
Still believe UK should leave.
If it came to the vote and the question was "Should the UK be forced to adopt the Euro by 2022" look at the weightings in the EU of the member states that have the Euro and you can see how the vote would go. Same with anything in the EU that gets voted on - the 27 would take all it can from the UK and we would not have enough power to stop them.
Ursula Van Der Leyens proposal as the new "Dear Leader" is to remove all national vetoes in favour of QMV. That means 5 years maximum, which also backs up Guy Verhofstadt comment that all member states must adopt the Euro by 2025.
Fullfact is a remain propaganda site, look at how many revisions to its articles it is forced to correct... its awful.
13-09-2019, 10:00 AM
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Re: Beware the Lisbon Treaty...
The Lisbon Treaty came into force in 2009It DOES clearly mandate a number of bad things for our country.
It sees the abolishment of Westminster and our UK political parties. They all become redundant and whilst some might very glibly see that as a good thing the reality is that once done, the only parties you will be able to vote for will be European Level Parties which respresent more than one member state. So you'll have maybe a Baltic Party representing baltic regions and so on. Which EU party do you imagine will give a toss about the UK?
This will effectively be the death knell for your ability to vote at all as a citizen, the end of democracy.
Our military is mandated in the treaty to be made available to the EU to support whatever its aims and agendas are. That includes our nuclear capability. The treaty also mandates that member states adopt the Euro. We have an exemption on that for the time being but there's no way that exemption is permanent. The EU isn't stupid. It realised that it was a sensitive issue for the UK so allowed us to resist the Euro whilst it took us deeper into "EU Integration". In the end we will have to take the Euro, no question.
Tony BLiar was desperate only a few years ago to convince us all to take the Euro, EU serving stooge that he is. He said it would be a catastrophe to refuse it and not in th enational interest. He was badly wrong. Thank god we did resist.
But the intent is clearly there and in time our corrupt politicians would definitely take us into the Euro.
There's tons of bad stuff in theLisbon Treaty which UK citizens were given no say about and which our corrupt politicials Blair and Brown signed us up to.
It will be the Orwellian Police State and is rapily becomming so imho.
Vital we get out now and get out properly.
13-09-2019, 10:06 AM
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Re: Beware the Lisbon Treaty...
Originally Posted by Cinderella
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This link contradicts.https://fullfact.org/europe/viral-li...-treaty-wrong/
Still believe UK should leave.
One link is best case scenario! Cinders! You just have to
choose which you think is most likely?
Judging by the changes made to eu since its start and what
it is now l know what option is most likely???
Regards Donkeyman!
13-09-2019, 10:14 AM
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Re: Beware the Lisbon Treaty...
Originally Posted by Realist
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The Lisbon Treaty came into force in 2009It DOES clearly mandate a number of bad things for our country.
It sees the abolishment of Westminster and our UK political parties. They all become redundant and whilst some might very glibly see that as a good thing the reality is that once done, the only parties you will be able to vote for will be European Level Parties which respresent more than one member state. So you'll have maybe a Baltic Party representing baltic regions and so on. Which EU party do you imagine will give a toss about the UK?
This will effectively be the death knell for your ability to vote at all as a citizen, the end of democracy.
Our military is mandated in the treaty to be made available to the EU to support whatever its aims and agendas are. That includes our nuclear capability. The treaty also mandates that member states adopt the Euro. We have an exemption on that for the time being but there's no way that exemption is permanent. The EU isn't stupid. It realised that it was a sensitive issue for the UK so allowed us to resist the Euro whilst it took us deeper into "EU Integration". In the end we will have to take the Euro, no question.
Tony BLiar was desperate only a few years ago to convince us all to take the Euro, EU serving stooge that he is. He said it would be a catastrophe to refuse it and not in th enational interest. He was badly wrong. Thank god we did resist.
But the intent is clearly there and in time our corrupt politicians would definitely take us into the Euro.
There's tons of bad stuff in theLisbon Treaty which UK citizens were given no say about and which our corrupt politicials Blair and Brown signed us up to.
It will be the Orwellian Police State and is rapily becomming so imho.
Vital we get out now and get out properly.
Funnily enough, it was also the IMF that said if we do not adopt the Euro and make our first steps to monetary union by joining the ERM, the UK would face mass unemployment, businesses would go bankrupt, the economy would collapse, interest rates would go through the roof and people would lose their homes.
This was 1992 (under - yes, you guessed it, remain fanatic Sir John Major).
In 1992 the UK joined the ERM and aligned sterling with the DM . The pound was on the "glide path" (as it was called) to european monetary union (although the public were being completely misled at the time because all Sir John Major told us was that we were joining the ERM - not the Euro (or the ECU as it was known at the time).
So, like good Brits, we aligned sterling to the DM...
Then 1992 saw Black Wednesday, where German manufacturing declined, the DM slipped and as a result took the sterling down with it.
What did we get ? Well, would you believe it, we ended up with mass unemployment, businesses went bankrupt, the economy collapsed, interest rates went through the roof and people lost their homes
But who was this mysterious person in the IMF who convinced us to join the ERM, to get on the "glide path to European Monetary Union" or otherwise face (here we go) ..... mass unemployment, businesses going bankrupt, the economy collapsing, interest rates going through the roof and people losing their homes ???
No other than ex-criminal Christine La Garde who now sits as the head of the ECB
But what did convicted criminal Christine La Garde say about the UK leaving the EU ?
Well, no surprises .... here she is back in 2016 telling us again about economic doom if the UK voted leave?
You really couldn't make this up
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRx_tpjFOrs
13-09-2019, 10:18 AM
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Re: Beware the Lisbon Treaty...
Originally Posted by Realist
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The Lisbon Treaty came into force in 2009It DOES clearly mandate a number of bad things for our country.
It sees the abolishment of Westminster and our UK political parties. They all become redundant and whilst some might very glibly see that as a good thing the reality is that once done, the only parties you will be able to vote for will be European Level Parties which respresent more than one member state. So you'll have maybe a Baltic Party representing baltic regions and so on. Which EU party do you imagine will give a toss about the UK?
This will effectively be the death knell for your ability to vote at all as a citizen, the end of democracy.
Our military is mandated in the treaty to be made available to the EU to support whatever its aims and agendas are. That includes our nuclear capability. The treaty also mandates that member states adopt the Euro. We have an exemption on that for the time being but there's no way that exemption is permanent. The EU isn't stupid. It realised that it was a sensitive issue for the UK so allowed us to resist the Euro whilst it took us deeper into "EU Integration". In the end we will have to take the Euro, no question.
Tony BLiar was desperate only a few years ago to convince us all to take the Euro, EU serving stooge that he is. He said it would be a catastrophe to refuse it and not in th enational interest. He was badly wrong. Thank god we did resist.
But the intent is clearly there and in time our corrupt politicians would definitely take us into the Euro.
There's tons of bad stuff in theLisbon Treaty which UK citizens were given no say about and which our corrupt politicials Blair and Brown signed us up to.
It will be the Orwellian Police State and is rapily becomming so imho.
Vital we get out now and get out properly.
Which, incidentally, Cameron promised us a referendum on and then backtracked on once in office.
But looking at online news, the Sun is talking about a zombie Parliament; it seems Oliver Leftwing and his cronies are planning to prevent an election until summer 2020, if not longer, so they can have another referendum.
Heaven forbid!! This Parliament is a waste of space, and although a good analogy, “zombie Parliament “ is an insult to zombies
13-09-2019, 10:26 AM
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Re: Beware the Lisbon Treaty...
Originally Posted by Bread
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Funnily enough, it was also the IMF that said if we do not adopt the Euro and make our first steps to monetary union by joining the ERM, the UK would face mass unemployment, businesses would go bankrupt, the economy would collapse, interest rates would go through the roof and people would lose their homes.This was 1992 (under - yes, you guessed it, remain fanatic Sir John Major).
In 1992 the UK joined the ERM and aligned sterling with the DM . The pound was on the "glide path" (as it was called) to european monetary union (although the public were being completely misled at the time because all Sir John Major told us was that we were joining the ERM - not the Euro (or the ECU as it was known at the time).
So, like good Brits, we aligned sterling to the DM...
Then 1992 saw Black Wednesday, where German manufacturing declined, the DM slipped and as a result took the sterling down with it.
What did we get ? Well, would you believe it, we ended up with mass unemployment, businesses went bankrupt, the economy collapsed, interest rates went through the roof and people lost their homes
But who was this mysterious person in the IMF who convinced us to join the ERM, to get on the "glide path to European Monetary Union" or otherwise face (here we go) ..... mass unemployment, businesses going bankrupt, the economy collapsing, interest rates going through the roof and people losing their homes ???
No other than ex-criminal Christine La Garde who now sits as the head of the ECB
But what did convicted criminal Christine La Garde say about the UK leaving the EU ?
Well, no surprises .... here she is back in 2016 telling us again about economic doom if the UK voted leave?
You really couldn't make this up
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRx_tpjFOrs
Yes, we have been lied to, over and over, from the very beginning, over the EU. Is it any surprise that no one believes anything that the powers that be say?
They’ve just cried wolf so many times, it’s almost pathetic
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