11-10-2019, 02:57 PM
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Re: Fishing Industry Berates Westminster
Originally Posted by Solasch
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Boris' negotiations now entering a tunnel. A deal should be reached by 16 october (date of EU summit). So 5 days to sign a document. Tell me again about may signing in haste, so boris must be in collusion with the EU by your standards?
is?
It seems fortuitous to me that suddenly an insoluble problem
for 3yrs is miraculously solved whilst strolling around a park
with your hands in your pockets chatting to each other??
Call me sceptical, but it does smell fishy, if you will forgive the pun??
And just as real pressure is building up to resolve things??
We could have reached this point 2yrs ago!!
However we shall see what transpires, but l wont hold my breath?
Regards Donkeyman!
11-10-2019, 03:06 PM
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Re: Fishing Industry Berates Westminster
Originally Posted by Donkeyman
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The jury is still out on that Solly, it depends on what the outcomeis?
It seems fortuitous to me that suddenly an insoluble problem
for 3yrs is miraculously solved whilst strolling around a park
with your hands in your pockets chatting to each other??
Call me sceptical, but it does smell fishy, if you will forgive the pun??
And just as real pressure is building up to resolve things??
We could have reached this point 2yrs ago!!
However we shall see what transpires, but l wont hold my breath?
Regards Donkeyman!
Now they are nogotiating how to get back to the 2018 position with an alternative arrangement for the backstop.
As you say, if that were easy, or even possible, they would have done so during the original negotiations.
In any case, it is boris who does the offering and ireland/EU the accepting.
11-10-2019, 03:12 PM
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Re: Fishing Industry Berates Westminster
Originally Posted by Solasch
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If they could only learn to think before they speak, those fishermen! Same goes obviously for some posters here.Btw, it is exactly what swimfeeders has been explaining for over year.
The UK’s fishing fleets could face a de facto blockade within 48 hours of a no-deal*Brexit, MPs have been told.
Representatives of the fishing industry said it was “a bit of an understatement” to describe the UK’s preparations for no deal as “a shambles”.
Not only is the country not ready, but there are not enough vets to stamp paperwork for every boatload of fish, which would be mandatory in a no-deal scenario, MPs heard.
https://www.theguardian.com/business...io-deal-brexit
It was started experimentally by the Netherlands, but is currently banned by the EU. I understand the Netherlands wants to restart it! Your country also invented it! NICE.
Is this what you call commercial fishing?
britishseafishing.co.uk/pulse-trawling/
Note: I am cursed when it comes to copying a link. exactly as it is but hardly ever successful when posting. apologies.
11-10-2019, 03:15 PM
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Re: Fishing Industry Berates Westminster
Originally Posted by shropshiregirl
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a few items borrowed perhaps from Dutch fishing vessels? I understand your country is considering to restart PULSE TRAWLING, that disgusting, disgraceful method of electrical pulses being used that makes the muscles of all of the fish within its distance, contract, and force them up into nets usually hung from a crane. NICE! It was started experimentally by the Netherlands, but is currently banned by the EU. I understand the Netherlands wants to restart it! Your country also invented it! NICE.
Is this what you call commercial fishing?
https:/www.britishseafishing.co.uk/pulse-trawling/
If you're not only interested in fictive opinions, but also in facts https://www.wur.nl/nl/Publicatie-det...y-353530333332
11-10-2019, 03:24 PM
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Re: Fishing Industry Berates Westminster
Originally Posted by Solasch
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As the dutch argue, it was then by scientific standards the best way to fish and spare the sea bottom ecology.
11-10-2019, 03:30 PM
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Re: Fishing Industry Berates Westminster
Originally Posted by shropshiregirl
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And of course, the EU took that scientific information into account before banning it completely?
https://www.wur.nl/nl/Publicatie-det...y-353530333332
Hence the move by the dutch to have the ban lifted.
11-10-2019, 03:53 PM
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I hope to God it is never allowed to happen.I understand how it works, how it sends short bursts of electrical pulses which reach all the fish on the sea bed, paralysing them so they float helplessly up into your nets.
It is a barbaric method. An insult to call it fishing, it is more like something dreamt up in a Laboratory.
11-10-2019, 03:59 PM
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Re: Fishing Industry Berates Westminster
Originally Posted by shropshiregirl
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I hope to God it is never allowed to happen. I understand how it works, how it sends short bursts of electrical pulses which reach all the fish on the sea bed, paralysing them so they float helplessly up into your nets.
It is a barbaric method. An insult to call it fishing, it is more like something dreamt up in a Laboratory.
In addition, the pulse net floats above the seabed, in contrast to the beam trawl that is traditionally used in flatfish fishing: that is where chains flutter the seabed and scrape away the fish that are hiding away. This is harmful to starfish, crabs and shellfish.
11-10-2019, 04:01 PM
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Solach, fancy words in a published paper giving the lie that this is not a barbaric method, will not convince me. More relevant is the admission that the trawlers can be smaller, hence having to use less fuel.That last sentence makes more sense for the reasoning to bring it back!
11-10-2019, 04:32 PM
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Re: Fishing Industry Berates Westminster
Originally Posted by Donkeyman
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I am assuming,maybe hopefully, that regaining control of ourborders covers the whole gamut of our fishing interests?
I say this because there is little emphasis on this subject up to
now in an official capacity? All we hear is the phrase BACK STOP!
So as l said in my opening, l assume ' everybody' knows that fishing
is included in the regaining control of borders context?
I would hate it if it accidentally got pidgeonholed somewhere out
of the way!!
Regards Donkeyman!
I must admit that the act of actually escaping the EU, to me, is the biggest boost.
Once out we can turn all the other screws.
(I hope!)
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