11-11-2019, 01:27 PM
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Re: Living too long
Originally Posted by OldGreyFox
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There are many causes of depression Muddy, A feeling of worthlessness, Bullying, Medication, Persistent pain......The list is endless, but depression is not an illness on it's own, it is the result of something else....A mindset.....
It seems strange now that there are so many suicides relating to young people.
In my lifetime I have only known three people who committed suicide...But now it's in the news practically every day. It seems that bullying on social media is one cause, and tree huggers telling us how we are destroying the planet and it's all our fault....
https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/clinical-depression/
If it were a mindset every depressed person would change their mind immediately .
People have always committed suicide just because you don’t know them doesn’t mean they don t do it
11-11-2019, 04:25 PM
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Re: Living too long
Originally Posted by Muddy
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No OGF clinical depression is an illness not a mindset .https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/clinical-depression/
If it were a mindset every depressed person would change their mind immediately .
People have always committed suicide just because you don’t know them doesn’t mean they don t do it
For God's sake Muddy......Pull yourself together....
11-11-2019, 04:30 PM
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Re: Living too long
Originally Posted by OldGreyFox
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And there will be one more if I continue reading this thread....For God's sake Muddy......Pull yourself together....
11-11-2019, 04:35 PM
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Re: Living too long
Originally Posted by Floydy
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Don't worry mate, Muddy is going to Australia soon to cheer them up down under. She will no doubt be sending us her happy sunny smiles which we will be badly needing in January/February.
11-11-2019, 07:41 PM
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Re: Living too long
Respectfully, I have to disagree that depression is a mindset. It is caused by he pathophysiology (caused by inflammation, the morphology of the brain [genetic], trauma, toxins, disease) distributed across many brain regions and circuits.Being sad or down for a while when you have a healthy brain is not the same, and it is not depression. If you are down and have a healthy brain, you have the basic functioning equipment to use strategies to get well. Examples of this are healthy people who lose a loved one, face a job loss, go through a divorce, etc causing them to remain sad, lonely, distant, and otherwise dysfunctional for a while. They have the equipment to get better - and there are many strategies that can work for them.
Depressed people can no more pull themselves up by their bootstraps to control their illness any more than people can do likewise to cure their cancer. This is why no one who is physiologically depressed ever graduates out of therapy without medical intervention - or their bodies heal as a result of immune responses. They aren't weak or negative, their brains are sick and require medical treatment.
11-11-2019, 09:24 PM
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Re: Living too long
Originally Posted by Surfermom
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Respectfully, I have to disagree that depression is a mindset. It is caused by he pathophysiology (caused by inflammation, the morphology of the brain [genetic], trauma, toxins, disease) distributed across many brain regions and circuits.Being sad or down for a while when you have a healthy brain is not the same, and it is not depression. If you are down and have a healthy brain, you have the basic functioning equipment to use strategies to get well. Examples of this are healthy people who lose a loved one, face a job loss, go through a divorce, etc causing them to remain sad, lonely, distant, and otherwise dysfunctional for a while. They have the equipment to get better - and there are many strategies that can work for them.
Depressed people can no more pull themselves up by their bootstraps to control their illness any more than people can do likewise to cure their cancer. This is why no one who is physiologically depressed ever graduates out of therapy without medical intervention - or their bodies heal as a result of immune responses. They aren't weak or negative, their brains are sick and require medical treatment.
11-11-2019, 09:33 PM
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Re: Living too long
Originally Posted by Surfermom
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Respectfully, I have to disagree that depression is a mindset. It is caused by he pathophysiology (caused by inflammation, the morphology of the brain [genetic], trauma, toxins, disease) distributed across many brain regions and circuits.Being sad or down for a while when you have a healthy brain is not the same, and it is not depression. If you are down and have a healthy brain, you have the basic functioning equipment to use strategies to get well. Examples of this are healthy people who lose a loved one, face a job loss, go through a divorce, etc causing them to remain sad, lonely, distant, and otherwise dysfunctional for a while. They have the equipment to get better - and there are many strategies that can work for them.
Depressed people can no more pull themselves up by their bootstraps to control their illness any more than people can do likewise to cure their cancer. This is why no one who is physiologically depressed ever graduates out of therapy without medical intervention - or their bodies heal as a result of immune responses. They aren't weak or negative, their brains are sick and require medical treatment.
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