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Not knowing a lot about this Brexit business I am wondering. If we leave and do not have to make these annual payments into the EU will the other countries have to pay more to make up for for loss from us?
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Re: Death Of Democracy

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Not knowing a lot about this Brexit business I am wondering. If we leave and do not have to make these annual payments into the EU will the other countries have to pay more to make up for for loss from us?

Yes
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01-10-2019, 11:10 AM
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Re: Death Of Democracy

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Not knowing a lot about this Brexit business I am wondering. If we leave and do not have to make these annual payments into the EU will the other countries have to pay more to make up for for loss from us?
Yes, between then they will need to pay an additional £12 billion which is representative of our net contribution

https://www.ons.gov.uk/economy/gover...get/2017-10-31
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01-10-2019, 11:15 AM
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Yes, between then they will need to pay an additional £12 billion which is representative of our net contribution

https://www.ons.gov.uk/economy/gover...get/2017-10-31
It will be a lot more than that - the EU increased (yes increased) their budget after we leave.

It's a bit like your Dad being the bread-winner of the family losing his job so your mum decides to book an even more expensive holiday than the year before.



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01-10-2019, 11:18 AM
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Re: Death Of Democracy

Originally Posted by big ben ->
Not knowing a lot about this Brexit business I am wondering. If we leave and do not have to make these annual payments into the EU will the other countries have to pay more to make up for for loss from us?

Oh yes indeedy !!


And I believe both France and Germany have already told Juncker & Co to get stuffed in terms of them paying increased contributions to foot the deficit.


Germany is in recession. Italy and others too.

The EU is a total mess. A cesspit of dictatorship crapola.

The UK leaving hurts it massively despite their fluff and bluster to the contrary. That's why they are pulling every string, even the Supreme Court, to stop BrExit happening.

People should see it for what it is.

We HAVE to get out and as fast as possible.

No Deal is the only way it will ever happen so we need to brace ourselves for any impact and get it done.

We will be far better off in the long run outside the control of the EU megalomaniacs.
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01-10-2019, 11:39 AM
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Oh yes indeedy !!


And I believe both France and Germany have already told Juncker & Co to get stuffed in terms of them paying increased contributions to foot the deficit.


Germany is in recession. Italy and others too.

The EU is a total mess. A cesspit of dictatorship crapola.

The UK leaving hurts it massively despite their fluff and bluster to the contrary. That's why they are pulling every string, even the Supreme Court, to stop BrExit happening.

People should see it for what it is.

We HAVE to get out and as fast as possible.

No Deal is the only way it will ever happen so we need to brace ourselves for any impact and get it done.

We will be far better off in the long run outside the control of the EU megalomaniacs.
It's difficult to see where they're going to get the money to make up for the deficit in our lost contributions.

It will be interesting to see who is forced into paying more. I don't think anyone will do that voluntarily, so there remains two options.

Either the people who rule the EU will have to cut back severely on their pay, pensions and various 'expenses'; or

countries will begin to leave the EU one by one, as many of us have been predicting.

Little wonder that they, and their fifth columnists in the UK, are making so much effort to prevent a clean Brexit.
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01-10-2019, 11:43 AM
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It's difficult to see where they're going to get the money to make up for the deficit in our lost contributions.

It will be interesting to see who is forced into paying more. I don't think anyone will do that voluntarily, so there remains two options.

Either the people who rule the EU will have to cut back severely on their pay, pensions and various 'expenses'; or

countries will begin to leave the EU one by one, as many of us have been predicting.

Little wonder that they, and their fifth columnists in the UK, are making so much effort to prevent a clean Brexit.

Germany, Denmark, France, Holland, Spain and Italy will all be forced to pay more.

Watch the number of "yellow vests" go through the roof and spread out over the top contributors of the EU countries after we leave. Those countries who benefit most and contribute nothing will then push back at the "austerity cuts" because they will see it as the EU going back on their word. If Germany has its way the EU will reduce the new budget increase to only 1%

Its all a big cluster fck
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01-10-2019, 02:33 PM
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Re: Death Of Democracy

Originally Posted by big ben ->
Not knowing a lot about this Brexit business I am wondering. If we leave and do not have to make these annual payments into the EU will the other countries have to pay more to make up for for loss from us?
The annual budget is 165 bn for 2019. The same for 2020.
The withdrawal deal sees to the UK's contribution till the end of 2020 (the transition period).
The EU budget is set every seven years, MFF, multiannual financial framework. The present MFF is 2014-2020. The new MFF will be determined without the UK present, and without contributing.

In view of the present MFF it would be best if the UK left by the end of 2020. The least disruptive in budgettary sense.
So count on an extension of your EU membership till december 31 2020.
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01-10-2019, 02:42 PM
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Re: Death Of Democracy

Originally Posted by JBR ->
It's difficult to see where they're going to get the money to make up for the deficit in our lost contributions.

It will be interesting to see who is forced into paying more. I don't think anyone will do that voluntarily, so there remains two options.

Either the people who rule the EU will have to cut back severely on their pay, pensions and various 'expenses'; or

countries will begin to leave the EU one by one, as many of us have been predicting.

Little wonder that they, and their fifth columnists in the UK, are making so much effort to prevent a clean Brexit.

Budget for countries are similar to those of households. If your income decreases, so has to decrease your spending. As personnel costs make up only 7% of the annual budget, reducing salaries is not the most efficient way to cut the spending. That means that spending on projects will be reduced. What the EU parliament has to decide is whether all projects will receive reduced support of that some projects will be scrapped altogether.
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01-10-2019, 03:09 PM
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Re: Death Of Democracy

Originally Posted by Solasch ->
The annual budget is 165 bn for 2019. The same for 2020.
The withdrawal deal sees to the UK's contribution till the end of 2020 (the transition period).
The EU budget is set every seven years, MFF, multiannual financial framework. The present MFF is 2014-2020. The new MFF will be determined without the UK present, and without contributing.

In view of the present MFF it would be best if the UK left by the end of 2020. The least disruptive in budgettary sense.
So count on an extension of your EU membership till december 31 2020.

nah... no extension thanks !
 
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