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22-11-2018, 05:57 PM
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Re: Corpus Juris - The End Of Your Liberty

Originally Posted by Realist ->
Meanwhile, we leave. We rebuild, undo the damage, weather the storm and come out the other side wiser, stronger, a free country once more.
Sounds like an epitaph.
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22-11-2018, 06:26 PM
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Re: Corpus Juris - The End Of Your Liberty

Originally Posted by Realist ->
Tragic

The truth is that the EU itself has done its own damage through its actions across all the member states. Most have been bankrupted as a result of the EU's belligerent and relentless push for their beloved single currency. They were warned many times by people like Farage that it simply wasn't appropriate to force the Euro on so many disparate and different countries but they simply carried on and now the whole thing is a colossal disaster.

The economies of Spain, Portugal, Italy, Greece, Ireland all shot. How many bail outs have we seen and who has to pay for those ?!!

Greece in particular. The banksters and financiers helped cause the crash through toxic lending not dissimilar to the financial crisis of 2008. Greek citizens had invested their life savings with the banks and financiers. When the axe fell, who did the EU bail out? The banksters and financiers leaving the little people high and dry.

One man who lost 100,000 of savings simply committed suicide.

The notion that BrExit is the only issue here is a farcical delusion. I regularly travel around Europe and the citizens of Spain and Italy I talk to are very far from happy with the EU.

Whatever the EU originally intended to be, has morphed into something else. I understand that the EU has been asked numerous times to reform, to change its ways but has consistently failed to do so. BrExit was therefore inevitable and once it happens, DExit, SwExit, SExit, GrExit and all the rest will surely follow step by step.

Sweden, a once beautiful and cherished country has become one of the rape capitals of the world. If that's the great EU vision then you can keep it

The EU is a classic example of self-harm. Power corrupts. How long did it fail to provide audited accounts for example?

The "conquer by stealth" strategy has been exposed. Too many people are now aware of what has been going on behind closed doors. So the UK is bolting . . . while it still can. If it didn't the door would shut us in permanently.


All of this desperate media campaign to try and change people's minds to convince us to stay is a wasted effort.

We CAN LEAVE and will LEAVE.

If we find that life outside the EU is intolerable then we can apply to come back in and old Juncker will welcome us with open arms.

If we stay now, we will never know whether we could have survived and become a great nation again.

Thankfully the majority share my sentiments. We wish to leave the EU, stop foreign countries meddling in our affairs and restore our cherished constitution which your fraudulent EU politicians have run roughshod over. Their actions have been treasonous. At some point they must be held to account and put on trial.

Meanwhile, we leave. We rebuild, undo the damage, weather the storm and come out the other side wiser, stronger, a free country once more.

Not one of your twisted and corrupt statements is backed up by evidence. And no surprise your warped comments are backed up by SG.
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22-11-2018, 07:37 PM
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Re: Corpus Juris - The End Of Your Liberty

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Seizing people WITHOUT those grounds and WITHOUT any evidence and WITHOUT any fair trial is patently a perversion of justice and the purview of a totalitarian dictatorship.
Can you cite any examples of where that has happened in UK?
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22-11-2018, 07:48 PM
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Re: Corpus Juris - The End Of Your Liberty

Originally Posted by Besoeker ->
Can you cite any examples of where that has happened in UK?
Of course he can't and this highly intelligent person complains about "Project Fear".
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22-11-2018, 08:19 PM
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Re: Corpus Juris - The End Of Your Liberty

Originally Posted by Realist ->
Everyone in the UK should read and understand what Corpus Juris means and what the implications would be for society.

In a nutshell CJ, I believe, gives a state the ability to seize and imprison anyone for almost any reason without trial or even having suitable evidence in place.

It represents the exact opposite of what our long standing sacred laws of Habeus Corpus provide which is the principle of "Innocent Until Proved Guilty" and the right of a friend or family member to demand that they see the incarcerated body and to know why they are imprisoned.

It is important to understand whether or not the EU has been trying to slowly and silently introduce CJ because if they do, our core freedoms will be irretrievably lost.

Read this article:

http://www.silentmajority.co.uk/sile...pus_juris.html


and this one:

http://www.caef.org.uk/d44corpusjuris.html


and an article in the Independent a few years ago

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices...m-8931215.html

and here is a Parliament page highlighting the results of a review of CJ

https://publications.parliament.uk/p...om/62/6204.htm



Make the effort to read and understand the implications of Corpus Juris because it is vital to your freedom.


If like many you feel/realise that CJ will be the primary armoury of a totalitarian police state then you must surely see the need to leave the EU as soon as possible so that this damaging system can never be implemented in the UK.


Which Corpus Juris are you referring to? Do you even know? or is it because it just sounds posh?
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22-11-2018, 08:32 PM
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Re: Corpus Juris - The End Of Your Liberty

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I have never agreed with CJ. The cherished innocence until proved Guilty has stood us in good stead for hundreds of years. We should not give in to the intimidation to join Europe with their Guilty until proof of innocent. How the hell does anyone do that from a cell??

The only time it should ever be used in Britain if it has to, is for Terrorists, and serious criminals who have operated abroad. Nothing else.
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Under no circumstances, should British citizens ever be arrested in their own homes, dragged to police cells and held until deported back to a European country that operates under CJ. It is not in the British DNA and never will be.

Still worry though that our weasel government will give way as a sop to leaving.
This is a danger to our remaining in the EU which I had not been aware of.

Yet another reason why we should get out of the EU right now, and out completely without compromise.
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22-11-2018, 08:45 PM
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Re: Corpus Juris - The End Of Your Liberty

Originally Posted by Besoeker ->
Can you cite any examples of where that has happened in UK?
The Cliff Richard saga seems, to me, to be a close thing?

Not arrested, not tried, but besmirched anyway.
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22-11-2018, 08:52 PM
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Re: Corpus Juris - The End Of Your Liberty

Originally Posted by Tedc ->
The Cliff Richard saga seems, to me, to be a close thing?

Not arrested, not tried, but besmirched anyway.
Bugger all to do with the EU.
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22-11-2018, 09:20 PM
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Re: Corpus Juris - The End Of Your Liberty

Originally Posted by Purwell ->
Bugger all to do with the EU.
More like Eurovision
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23-11-2018, 01:09 AM
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Re: Corpus Juris - The End Of Your Liberty

Originally Posted by Realist ->

Seizing people WITHOUT those grounds and WITHOUT any evidence and WITHOUT any fair trial is patently a perversion of justice and the purview of a totalitarian dictatorship.

Originally Posted by Besoeker ->
Can you cite any examples of where that has happened in UK?
You would have to hope that he can't cite any examples.

What is the point of having such a draconian law if everybody knows who you have arrested? Under these circumstances people are supposed to just disappear surely? It is not something you publicise.

Originally Posted by shropshiregirl ->
Well said realist. Put your tin helmet on!
No worries on that front - it is just part of his normal ensemble.


BTW Corpus Juris has absolutely nothing to do with the "presumption of innocence" it just means body of law.

The presumption of innocence is enshrined in the Declaration of Human Rights as well as the European Council's Convention for the Protection of Human Rights and Fundamental Freedoms so don't let his waffle put that one over you.
 
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