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Hi

It is Realist, not Realspeed.

I do so agree with you however.
Yes you are right. Thank you
Realist not Realspeed!
The message is STILL the same though.
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Que? The article demonstrates how successful the polio vaccine has been (which is stated many times in the article). The fact that they are phasing out the old vaccine points to funding rather than efficacy.

I don't understand how this detracts from the fact that as UJ says we no longer have to grow up with the threat of polio in this country. I recently watched the film "breathe" and it was a terribly cruel illness for those who survived. How can anyone say that vaccines are useless (as per the antivax blog site's diagram) when you look at polio?
Yes I agree re polio...I was dismayed to see that it hasn't been eliminated as I'd thought, which is why I posted the link.

I believe smallpox now only exists in laboratories. Fantastic.
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12-12-2018, 10:32 PM
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I think they were close to eliminating polio but there is superstition in some Asian countries that it is being used to deliberately spread polio. Such incidents don't help.

The vaccine that is a bad one is chicken pox. We don't use that in this country because it can trigger early onset of shingles attacks in adulthood. It is thought better to contract the virus as a child as this gives people better immunity against shingles later in life. Despite strong evidence they do still administer it routinely in the US.
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12-12-2018, 10:46 PM
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Re: Vaccines

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I think they were close to eliminating polio but there is superstition in some Asian countries that it is being used to deliberately spread polio. Such incidents don't help.

The vaccine that is a bad one is chicken pox. We don't use that in this country because it can trigger early onset of shingles attacks in adulthood. It is thought better to contract the virus as a child as this gives people better immunity against shingles later in life. Despite strong evidence they do still administer it routinely in the US.
You can only contract/develop shingles if you've previously had chicken pox.
When your immunity is low, when you're run down, stressed out, post viral, thats when it attacks.
I'm wondering if the shingles jab is a good idea...maybe you'd still develop it but it wouldn't be so bad?
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12-12-2018, 11:03 PM
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You can only contract/develop shingles if you've previously had chicken pox.
When your immunity is low, when you're run down, stressed out, post viral, thats when it attacks.
I'm wondering if the shingles jab is a good idea...maybe you'd still develop it but it wouldn't be so bad?
I'm guessing the shingles jab might be a risk for someone who never had chicken pox. For others it either helps or does nothing. But the chicken pox vaccine is bad news.
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12-12-2018, 11:05 PM
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I'm guessing the shingles jab might be a risk for someone who never had chicken pox. For others it either helps or does nothing. But the chicken pox vaccine is bad news.
I've had the shingles jab and I have never had chicken pox
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12-12-2018, 11:09 PM
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I've had the shingles jab and I have never had chicken pox
But did the jab give you shingles?
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12-12-2018, 11:33 PM
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Not yet Annie, I only had it last October
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13-12-2018, 12:02 AM
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I've had the shingles jab and I have never had chicken pox
An absolutely crazy thing to do imho.

If you've never had Chicken Pox then you cannot catch Shingles unless you come into direct contact with a Shingles sufferer whilst they are highly contagious and then you'd have to touch their sores.

So by having the vaccine you've simply now put yourself at risk of catching Shingles where before you had zero chance of catching it.
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13-12-2018, 12:04 AM
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An absolutely crazy thing to do imho.

If you've never had Chicken Pox then you cannot catch Shingles unless you come into direct contact with a Shingles sufferer whilst they are highly contagious and then you'd have to touch their sores.

So by having the vaccine you've simply now put yourself at risk of catching Shingles where before you had zero chance of catching it.
Don't let it concern you Realist, it was my decision
 
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