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Re: Is There a Breakdown of Respect?

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Well that sort of proves my point about religion being the root of good manners.
Nonsense. If anything it underlines theism as being the root of hypocrisy!
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15-04-2021, 07:59 PM
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Re: Is There a Breakdown of Respect?

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What on earth gives you the idea that humanists think we are in any way superior to the superstitious? As for "celebrants" in a humanist wedding or funeral the role of a "celebrant" is the same as a toastmaster or master of ceremonies at a formal event and that is as far as it goes!

My life, you REALLY don't know what you're going on about!
Really? Then why have a "humanist celebrant" or a "humanist ceremony"? It's a blinkin' religion that's why!
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15-04-2021, 08:04 PM
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Re: Is There a Breakdown of Respect?

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Manners Maketh Man = the motto of William of Wykeham the Bishop of Winchester links in with the grace of God & showing grace to other people however they behave. It's engrained in British values. But it's rooted in Christianity.
Well the person who created the Church of England didn't appear to show much grace to people with whom he disagreed. He seemed to prefer such things as decapitation and even hanging, drawing and quartering for his 'specials'.

I've been watching The Tudors.
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Re: Is There a Breakdown of Respect?

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Really? Then why have a "humanist celebrant" or a "humanist ceremony"? It's a blinkin' religion that's why!
Not at all! The master of ceremonies responsibility is simply to make sure that the party runs with the right people in the right place for the photographs and the champagne is chilled and the red wine is at room temp. It's NOT a religion. If anything it's the antithesis of a religion.
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Re: Is There a Breakdown of Respect?

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I have no manners, I simply try to avoid insulting most silly old bats up even when they come out with a load of boll**ks.
I'm sure he wasn't referring to you personally as a silly old bat, Annie.
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Re: Is There a Breakdown of Respect?

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Really? Then why have a "humanist celebrant" or a "humanist ceremony"? It's a blinkin' religion that's why!
Yes, and I've always maintained atheism is a religion too.

Some people (non religious) just don't know when to zip it.
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Re: Is There a Breakdown of Respect?

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I'm sure he wasn't referring to you personally as a silly old bat, Annie.
LOL! Oh as if I would!
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15-04-2021, 08:12 PM
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Re: Is There a Breakdown of Respect?

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Well the person who created the Church of England didn't appear to show much grace to people with whom he disagreed. He seemed to prefer such things as decapitation and even hanging, drawing and quartering for his 'specials'.

I've been watching The Tudors.
Well perhaps they had no manners?
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Re: Is There a Breakdown of Respect?

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I'm sure he wasn't referring to you personally as a silly old bat, Annie.

Well I'm young enough to be his daughter so I didn't think so.
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15-04-2021, 08:18 PM
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Re: Is There a Breakdown of Respect?

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Not at all! The master of ceremonies responsibility is simply to make sure that the party runs with the right people in the right place for the photographs and the champagne is chilled and the red wine is at room temp. It's NOT a religion. If anything it's the antithesis of a religion.
Look it has it's own list of principles :

https://secularhumanism.org/what-is-...s-of-humanism/

It's like a humanist version of the Nicene Creed!
 
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