29-06-2012, 07:07 PM
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This idea of folks working longer will not work for all, not everybody is fit and able to work at 65 never mind 67/68.Can you imagine an old man getting down under a sink to do the plumbing, or getting on a roof to do some roof work.
It will only lead to folks claiming sickness benefits in my opinion.
Yes some folks are lucky to be blessed with a good healthy body, but I know from my own experience, I was unfit at 40 really to carry on with my trade, but I carried on till I was 46.
Then I sought another form of work, which I managed to carry on till I was 60, I couldn't have gone any further.
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29-06-2012, 08:20 PM
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Wrinkly,With all due respect to you, you are treating your singular case as the norm, when discussing things like this we have to generalise. Of course there are those that, for the want of a better expression will, "fall by the wayside" and then there are those who will happily work on past retirement age, whilst, I would think the majority will look forward to their earliest retirement day.
And the plumber who is approaching retirement, knees weakened from being on his knees most of his working life, will let the apprentice scrabble under the sink, or will delegate the job to a more able person.
29-06-2012, 10:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Jonsey
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Uncle Joe,----------I am told teaching / nursing / most "vocational" jobs are traumatic and the pressure is intense upon them, I suppose driving a ruddy great bus through the town centre is doddle, and that traffic wardens live a stresss free existance .
Come on lets get real, those "vocational" lot are well paid for doing the job they do, and their retirement package will still far better than the average ex working mans/womans pension, PLUS they will still still be getting state handouts.
That is a sweeping and very uninformed generalisation.
There is really little comparison between a person who drives a bus/traffic warden and healthcare professionals. You should go and work in A & E and deal daily with casualties of road traffic accidents, the blood and the gore, life threatening conditions, the heartbreak of relatives, the frailty of life as it ebbs away, all of which must be professionally and compassionately handled. Also try working on an acute mental health unit and then perhaps you can talk about occupational stress.
30-06-2012, 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Aerolor
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That is a sweeping and very uninformed generalisation. There is really little comparison between a person who drives a bus/traffic warden and healthcare professionals. You should go and work in A & E and deal daily with casualties of road traffic accidents, the blood and the gore, life threatening conditions, the heartbreak of relatives, the frailty of life as it ebbs away, all of which must be professionally and compassionately handled. Also try working on an acute mental health unit and then perhaps you can talk about occupational stress.
Now you are being maudlin, playing on the emotional violin, both my brother in law and his wife are doctors, she is a trauma specialist, at the VERY sharp end of an accident, her husband is working in a hospital A&E department on a rotational system, and yes, both jobs are very stressful and should be well paid, nobody is stating otherwise. But as with every job, and I do have experience of this, the first two events are the ones that "turn the stomach, after that you become gradually hardened to what you see before you, it still might pain you to see it, but thats your job, thats what you studied for, thats why you recieve a very good wage for doing it, and a VERY substantial pension when retiring.
30-06-2012, 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Jonsey
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Now you are being maudlin, playing on the emotional violin, both my brother in law and his wife are doctors, she is a trauma specialist, at the VERY sharp end of an accident, her husband is working in a hospital A&E department on a rotational system, and yes, both jobs are very stressful and should be well paid, nobody is stating otherwise. But as with every job, and I do have experience of this, the first two events are the ones that "turn the stomach, after that you become gradually hardened to what you see before you, it still might pain you to see it, but thats your job, thats what you studied for, thats why you recieve a very good wage for doing it, and a VERY substantial pension when retiring.
Same applies to strenuous work, your body is no longer able to do the hard tasks that it used too, in fact you begin to slow down after 50, although folks don't like to admit it.
30-06-2012, 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Jonsey
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Now you are being maudlin, playing on the emotional violin, both my brother in law and his wife are doctors, she is a trauma specialist, at the VERY sharp end of an accident, her husband is working in a hospital A&E department on a rotational system, and yes, both jobs are very stressful and should be well paid, nobody is stating otherwise. But as with every job, and I do have experience of this, the first two events are the ones that "turn the stomach, after that you become gradually hardened to what you see before you, it still might pain you to see it, but thats your job, thats what you studied for, thats why you recieve a very good wage for doing it, and a VERY substantial pension when retiring.
30-06-2012, 11:18 AM
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Well I am nearly 73,and thankfully my brain and my memory are still in in good working order, ( errr who am i talking to ???lol)Of course you can't apply the same criteria to EVERY person, we all have differing characteristics, some we survive well into their 80 /90s others will fall by the wayside.
30-06-2012, 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Jonsey
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Well I am nearly 73,and thankfully my brain and my memory are still in in good working order, ( errr who am i talking to ???lol)Of course you can't apply the same criteria to EVERY person, we all have differing characteristics, some we survive well into their 80 /90s others will fall by the wayside.
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