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He has lost again over his tax liability

https://scramnews.com/brexiteer-arro...ax-loses-case/
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02-04-2020, 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by swimfeeders ->
Hi

He has lost again over his tax liability

https://scramnews.com/brexiteer-arro...ax-loses-case/
The EU hasn't signed up the ECHR anyway, the UK has and has been signed up to it for decades

The EU is still in "ascension" which is hardly surprising because if they did sign up, they would be in a lot of trouble for their corruption and scandals going back to the early 80s. I think they actually breach their own Lisbon Treaty by doing so ... ?

Anyway, I don't think Aaron Banks will be too worried about a few hundred grand, I'm sure all his court fees will be tax deductible.

Well done Jolyon Maugham though, he actually won a case for once.
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02-04-2020, 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by swimfeeders ->
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He has lost again over his tax liability

https://scramnews.com/brexiteer-arro...ax-loses-case/
Good!
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02-04-2020, 01:59 PM
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The EU hasn't signed up the ECHR anyway, the UK has and has been signed up to it for decades

Thank you for informing about the ratification of protocols 4, 7, 11 and 12 of the echr. Up till yesterday the UK hadn't done so. Notably Protocol 12 on discrimination is a leap forward for the UK.

Erroneously you forgot to tell that the council of europe signed in 1951.

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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euro...n_Human_Rights
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02-04-2020, 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Solasch ->
Thank you for informing about the ratification of protocols 4, 7, 11 and 12 of the echr. Up till yesterday the UK hadn't done so. Notably Protocol 12 on discrimination is a leap forward for the UK.

Erroneously you forgot to tell that the council of europe signed in 1951.

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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euro...n_Human_Rights
The UK signed up to the ECHR about 70 years ago Solasch.

European Union hasn't - by the way, it is classed as an International Organisation by the ECHR. It's still trying to ascend to it, because its useless, it knows it has no chance of meeting the requirements of it.
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02-04-2020, 03:23 PM
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The UK signed up to the ECHR about 70 years ago Solasch.

European Union hasn't - by the way, it is classed as an International Organisation by the ECHR. It's still trying to ascend to it, because its useless, it knows it has no chance of meeting the requirements of it.
I know bread, as did the netherlands and 8 other founder member states.
The 47 countries of the council of europe have signed up (which in effect, includes all EU members).
But. Protocol No. 14 of the ECHR entered into force on 1 June 2010. It allows the European Union to accede to the European Convention on Human Rights.
The EU's*Treaty of Lisbon, in force since 1 December 2009, requires the EU to accede to the convention in Article 6 of the consolidated Treaty on European Union:*"The Union shall accede to the European Convention for the Protection of Human Rights and Fundamental Freedoms. Such accession shall not affect the Union's competences as defined in the Treaties."*The EU would thus be subject to its human rights law and external monitoring as its member states currently are.

Sorry to tell you, but you are wrong when stating the EU has not signed on.


The UK didn't sign the protocols 4 (on civil imprisonments), 7 (on crine and family), 12 (on discrimination). But did ratify 14, allowing the EU to accede
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02-04-2020, 03:30 PM
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I know bread, as did the netherlands and 8 other founder member states.
The 47 countries of the council of europe have signed up (which in effect, includes all EU members).
But. Protocol No. 14 of the ECHR entered into force on 1 June 2010. It allows the European Union to accede to the European Convention on Human Rights.
The EU's*Treaty of Lisbon, in force since 1 December 2009, requires the EU to accede to the convention in Article 6 of the consolidated Treaty on European Union:*"The Union shall accede to the European Convention for the Protection of Human Rights and Fundamental Freedoms. Such accession shall not affect the Union's competences as defined in the Treaties."*The EU would thus be subject to its human rights law and external monitoring as its member states currently are.

Sorry to tell you, but you are wrong when stating the EU has not signed on.


The UK didn't sign the protocols 4 (on civil imprisonments), 7 (on crine and family), 12 (on discrimination). But did ratify 14, allowing the EU to accede

But it hasn't "asceded" to the ECHR it is not ratified and they have not signed it.

Pay attention and read my posts

https://www.europarl.europa.eu/think...82017%29607298
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02-04-2020, 03:42 PM
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But it hasn't "asceded" to the ECHR it is not ratified and they have not signed it.

Pay attention and read my posts

https://www.europarl.europa.eu/think...82017%29607298
Nevertheless, contrary to what you stated, it is signed, raification pending. Same as UK's ratification of protocols is pending.
Might I direct your attention to a sentence in your link:
whilst others express the view that accession would actually do more harm than good to EU citizens.
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02-04-2020, 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Solasch ->
Nevertheless, contrary to what you stated, it is signed, raification pending. Same as UK's ratification of protocols is pending.
Might I direct your attention to a sentence in your link:
whilst others express the view that accession would actually do more harm than good to EU citizens.

The UK ratified it and signed it about 70 years ago.

Your wrong - again The EU still haven't signed it either. It was the ECJ that prevented the EU from signing it because (ironically) if they did, the ECHR would over-rule laws made by the ECJ. We all know the unelected EU Cartel wants power by taking sovereignty from member states, so a little thing like human rights must never get in the way of "Das EU Projekt".

As for the 2nd bit in bold - just take the over crowded housing in the EU that breaches the ECHR rules. How on earth would the EU manage to fund themselves to the standard of countries like the UK ?
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02-04-2020, 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Bread ->
The UK ratified it and signed it about 70 years ago.

Your wrong - again The EU still haven't signed it either. It was the ECJ that prevented the EU from signing it because (ironically) if they did, the ECHR would over-rule laws made by the ECJ. We all know the unelected EU Cartel wants power by taking sovereignty from member states, so a little thing like human rights must never get in the way of "Das EU Projekt".

As for the 2nd bit in bold - just take the over crowded housing in the EU that breaches the ECHR rules. How on earth would the EU manage to fund themselves to the standard of countries like the UK ?

Thanks bread. Finally I'm convinced that, contrary to your rants against socialism and all that is left, you are in that corner. Your advocating the ECHR proves that. As the ECHR is hated by the UK right (wing), you must be a socialist. https://www.theguardian.com/law/2013...t-human-rights

I salute you comrade!
 
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