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26-05-2020, 01:50 PM
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Re: Why does the government keep using word Advice instead of issuing Demands?

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You seem to have a vendetta against Dominic Cummings Solasch, is it because he has always been a brexit man?
The BBC are singing from the same song sheet as you and just want him out because of his beliefs. It's got nothing at all to do with him breaking the lockdown law is it?
In regard brexit, his involvement was at a time I had never even heard the word. As I understand it he helped devise the strategy to sell brexit to the british people, and it worked (irrespective of the level of truth in his arguments). So he understands his tradecraft. I can only respect him for that.

As far as covid is concerned he stated that the measures would cause enormous economic costs, to save some old, inproductive people. Harsh, but true, so I agree with him on that (I stated that before).
If he had stated yesterday he hasn't believed in the government's strategy, had acted to protect his child. And declared that he understood that under these circumstances he could no longer remain (no pun intended), and had resigned, I would have respected him. Now he is just wriggling to stay in his lucrative position, and for that I have no respect.
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26-05-2020, 02:11 PM
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Re: Why does the government keep using word Advice instead of issuing Demands?

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In regard brexit, his involvement was at a time I had never even heard the word. As I understand it he helped devise the strategy to sell brexit to the british people, and it worked (irrespective of the level of truth in his arguments). So he understands his tradecraft. I can only respect him for that.

As far as covid is concerned he stated that the measures would cause enormous economic costs, to save some old, inproductive people. Harsh, but true, so I agree with him on that (I stated that before).
If he had stated yesterday he hasn't believed in the government's strategy, had acted to protect his child. And declared that he understood that under these circumstances he could no longer remain (no pun intended), and had resigned, I would have respected him. Now he is just wriggling to stay in his lucrative position, and for that I have no respect.
DC or for that matter non of the ministers or any members of the government or their advisers EVER even hinted that the loss of elderly people was an acceptable price to pay in order to minimise the cost of lockdown or anything else. The furore dreamed up by the BREXIT haters is purely political opportunism based on rubbish and thankfully has now been seen for what it is though the government haters are still trying to mi!kit for all they can

Now the best of all worlds would be for our government to end this transition rubbish, announce, no deal, and set about moving on from the horrid European Commission and all its evil ways.
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26-05-2020, 04:20 PM
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Re: Why does the government keep using word Advice instead of issuing Demands?

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Judging by some reports infections could be as high as a couple of million Bread, but some are asymptomatic, and not every infected person has been tested and don't appear on official figures. When the percentage of recovered reaches a certain amount, the virus will be unable to transmit between people and it will create a sort of human firebreak (as I believe is happening in London) This is certainly how other viruses have been brought under control or eradicated altogether. I also believe the summer will help to slow it down, most colds and flu viruses disappear in the summer. Just my opinion of course, but it doesn't take an expert (or the BBC) to look back through time and see how we coped before and what eventually happened to a rampaging virus..
I have been worried, about this point, for quite a while, is there any evidence that those living in Countries which are currently in their summer, or in those countries which are tropical, have lower numbers than ours?
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26-05-2020, 08:14 PM
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Re: Why does the government keep using word Advice instead of issuing Demands?

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I have been worried, about this point, for quite a while, is there any evidence that those living in Countries which are currently in their summer, or in those countries which are tropical, have lower numbers than ours?
Australia was enjoying their summer when the virus was first seen on their shores Ted. In fact, quite a few southern hemisphere countries have not demonstrated the numbers of deaths and infections that the northern hemisphere has. The low numbers of deaths and infections could possibly be down to a speedy and efficient lockdown and/or the fact it was summer, but It can't be ruled out in my opinion...

I'm not saying it was just the heat, but people tend to spend more time outside where it's harder for the virus to spread. I don't believe the virus likes the outdoors. Who knows how long it can remain infectious in still air and suitable conditions in enclosed spaces such as public transport, restaurants and theatres and cinemas. It would certainly explain why the government are leaving such places until last to return to normal. I also believe there might be a vitamin D connection, if not for prevention, then for recovery.

And finally Ted, in some tropical or normally hot countries the residents would not be subject to the annual round of colds and flu that we do here. I reckon that previous attacks of colds and flu does afford us some form of protection from other viruses and bacterial infections, unless our defences have been compromised as they are in old age or underlying health problems. Could this fact explain that many more people in the UK have been infected than numbers suggest, and experienced symptoms no more serious than a bad cold.
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26-05-2020, 09:10 PM
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Re: Why does the government keep using word Advice instead of issuing Demands?

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In regard brexit, his involvement was at a time I had never even heard the word. As I understand it he helped devise the strategy to sell brexit to the british people, and it worked (irrespective of the level of truth in his arguments). So he understands his tradecraft. I can only respect him for that.

As far as covid is concerned he stated that the measures would cause enormous economic costs, to save some old, inproductive people. Harsh, but true, so I agree with him on that (I stated that before).
If he had stated yesterday he hasn't believed in the government's strategy, had acted to protect his child. And declared that he understood that under these circumstances he could no longer remain (no pun intended), and had resigned, I would have respected him. Now he is just wriggling to stay in his lucrative position, and for that I have no respect.
Boris obviously believes that Dominic is worth saving and I commend Boris's loyalty to a good member of his team. And I tend to agree with Boris. I wouldn't expect a loyal EU representative to agree to Boris's cabinet even if it contained Jesus Christ himself......
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26-05-2020, 09:21 PM
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Re: Why does the government keep using word Advice instead of issuing Demands?

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Boris obviously believes that Dominic is worth saving and I commend Boris's loyalty to a good member of his team. And I tend to agree with Boris. I wouldn't expect a loyal EU representative to agree to Boris's cabinet even if it contained Jesus Christ himself......
Oh, I would. But now it contains lucifer.
I can understand boris, he needs a set of brains close by. It is DC not making the honourable decision I object to.
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26-05-2020, 09:32 PM
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Re: Why does the government keep using word Advice instead of issuing Demands?

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Oh, I would. But now it contains lucifer.
I can understand boris, he needs a set of brains close by. It is DC not making the honourable decision I object to.
I object the media putting DC in the position he is in. If Boris says he accepts Dominics explanation that should settle the matter. After all, Boris is the BOSS not the media....
It's like the tail wagging the dog. I don't believe that the BBC appeared on my ballot paper when I was voting for the next leader of the government.
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26-05-2020, 11:23 PM
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Re: Why does the government keep using word Advice instead of issuing Demands?

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I object the media putting DC in the position he is in. If Boris says he accepts Dominics explanation that should settle the matter. After all, Boris is the BOSS not the media....
It's like the tail wagging the dog. I don't believe that the BBC appeared on my ballot paper when I was voting for the next leader of the government.

Well said OGF !
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26-05-2020, 11:34 PM
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Re: Why does the government keep using word Advice instead of issuing Demands?

Originally Posted by OldGreyFox ->
I object the media putting DC in the position he is in. If Boris says he accepts Dominics explanation that should settle the matter. After all, Boris is the BOSS not the media....
It's like the tail wagging the dog. I don't believe that the BBC appeared on my ballot paper when I was voting for the next leader of the government.



Okay, your argument settles it. Everybody knew what kind of man boris is, so this behaviour was to expected? And by voting for him must get behind him always? Conversely, then only people that didn't vote for him are allowed to criticise. That is the american way, and OGF, you seem wiser than that to me.
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27-05-2020, 10:12 AM
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Re: Why does the government keep using word Advice instead of issuing Demands?

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Okay, your argument settles it. Everybody knew what kind of man boris is, so this behaviour was to expected? And by voting for him must get behind him always? Conversely, then only people that didn't vote for him are allowed to criticise. That is the american way, and OGF, you seem wiser than that to me.
Nothing wrong with BoJo. He's the best PM since Mrs Thatcher bar none.

He delivered BREXIT and with it return of our independence. Sadly we are stuck with the useless and unnecessary Transition period but that will soon end and the sooner the better.
 
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