29-03-2019, 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Meg
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SG 
unlike last Saturday no one has claimed there are 'a million' leave protesters but from the photographs, it looks like a huge number ...
Also, Blackford said there were 6 million who signed the petition for a second referendum. He omitted to mention though that half those votes came from outside of the UK, and that anyone who had more than one email address could make multiple signings of the said petition.
What a joke!
29-03-2019, 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by shropshiregirl
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Meg, I had to laugh listening to Ian Blackford today stating that there were over 1 million marchers for remain last week, when the official figure by those more in the know, confirmed that the true figure was about 400,000. Also, Blackford said there were 6 million who signed the petition for a second referendum. He omitted to mention though that half those votes came from outside of the UK, and that anyone who had more than one email address could make multiple signings of the said petition.
What a joke!
apparently there was a Jacob Reese Mogg who signed the the remain petition according to that gentleman himself who was somewhat surprised that there was someone somewhere who shared the same name and was minded to sign the petition 
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29-03-2019, 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Meg
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SG apparently there was a Jacob Reese Mogg who signed the the remain petition according to that gentleman himself who was somewhat surprised that there was someone somewhere who shared the same name and was minded to sign the petition .
29-03-2019, 05:44 PM
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I really can't take serious the indicative votes which are to be debated next week and don't see them as 'a way forward'.Some proposals look like MPs who voted remain trying to get the result of the referendum reversed, some like 'a Customs Union' may not be what they appear to be, they are a long way from a free trade agreement and will require customs checks and a border in Northern Ireland.
I might have taken the indicative votes more seriously if Labour had allowed a free vote and not whipped it's MPs thereby giving a false impression of the will of its MPs.
I appreciate the cabinet were allowed to abstain so didn't actually influence any of the votes.
29-03-2019, 05:52 PM
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Just a thought. Looking at that crowd building up quickly outside of Parliament, worries me. There are people from all over Britain who had already booked a holiday to come to London to celebrate the 29th March, the day we were meant to be officially leaving the EU. So there are families there. I just hope that there is no trouble, it only takes a few dimwits to have too much to drink and start trouble when you have a for and against crowd facing each other, taking their cue from the clowns in our Parliament with their antics.
29-03-2019, 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Bread
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Wait until the Lisbon Treaty comes on in full in 2020. Even remainers will want to leave then.
If it weren’t so avidly believed and shared, this absurdity could be ignored, but it’s typical Brexitology. Here are its claims: in 2020 all EU countries lose their veto. In 2022 all become states of the new federal nation and must join the euro. The London Stock Exchange will move to Frankfurt to an EU exchange and the EU parliament and court of justice become “supreme”. Borders are lost as Schengen becomes compulsory and countries lose control of planning and tax policies. The UK hands over its armed forces and nuclear deterrent to an EU force.
There’s a lot more of this balderdash, with each claim meticulously debunked by Peers.*
Post after post is spreading a fake list of the treaty’s contents. If Britain stays in the EU, by 2020 we will be locked into vassalage of a new super-state. There is never, of course, any quote or link to the real treaty. So who’s doing this? Are these posts real, Russian, or US-financed far-right bots, generated by any of the linked Brexit groups under different names? Impossible to tell, says*Steve Peers, a professor of EU law at Essex University who has been chasing down this monster with painstaking rebuttals, refuting it point by point. He says the similarity of the words used – the “I’ve just been reading the Lisbon treaty” phrasing – suggests a highly organised and well-financed campaign of disinformation, backed by expensive ads disseminated virally.
Bread you can read all about yourself in the complete item in the guardian.
29-03-2019, 06:20 PM
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[QUOTE=OldFogey;1672847]"What next"?t It's pretty hard when the people who voted to Leave and believed in democracy in this country since the day they were born, have had to go up against those who don't, since the 24th June 2016 - we have also had to go up against the very organisation that doesn't want it's cash cow to ever leave, the has-been ex-politicians who've had it cushy making a killing in Europe after their political careers finished , the whole London elite establishment, the Remain dominated politicians only interested in their own careers or trying to get a general election and perfectly happy in the process in selling their souls, the SNP, the BBC, the BCC, the Bank of England, the CBI, the Banks, the Luvvies, the Z Listers, along with Obama and his back of the queue comment to the world.It always felt like Custer and his last stand. But, foolishly, I always believed in Britain's democracy. How wrong was I?
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