"Our Time In The EU was a calamity for Britain"

Great article in th DT, today, in which an analysis suggests that De Gaulle was right when he said that the UK should never have got into the EU.

Th article suggests tha "our time in the EU was a calamity for Britain, but a Disaster for the EU".

Allister Heath in :-

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/202...iftigniter-rhr

What a surprise.

For those who cannot access the page, here is a part of it:-

"We stood apart, a free-trading, Atlanticist and global island with a very different conception of Europe’s future. We were never going to fit into the Jean Monnet model of EU state-building or even his own more nation-centric version, De Gaulle argued when he gloriously vetoed our application twice during the Sixties. And so it turned out. Our approach was exactly what Brussels was seeking to stamp out.

Why didn’t we listen? Why did we waste 47 frustrating years as ambivalent members? To future generations, the opportunity cost will look staggering. If anything, Le Général underestimated how hard it would be for the UK to become European: he thought we would have to undergo a fundamental transformation of our economics and politics. He assumed we would never try; but in fact our political classes, declinists desperate for a post-imperial outlet, did their best, trashing our political system and the democratic compact between people and government. In the end, even that wasn’t enough. "

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All very true.

However, I'm sure that de Gaulle's attempts to keep us out were entirely for France's benefit and not ours.

Had the EEC remained the EEC, it would certainly have been of benefit to us but, of course, we all know what happened next.

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Even back then they knew we would veto everything they came up with because it would never work for the UK.

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Maybe DeGaulle did what he did (blocking us from joining) as a thank you for keeping him alive, in the UK, whilst the war flowed over France.

Maybe he really knew it would be bad for us?

Maybe it was gratitude.

Let me think!

OK! I've thought - I still think he was a prat.

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Well, not if it had remained simply a free-trade organisation.

It was when it became a political organisation that the rot set in and they began to control how we run our country.

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A puffed up selfish prat.

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Living in UK for a few years gave him a better understanding of Britain, more than our politicians ever did.

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remaining a trading block was never the option for the EU. That was the deception first introduced to kick start the project for a United States of Europe.

It's easy to see now we look back on it how it was designed by communists such as (the main comrade) Alterio Spinelli. The EU love him and his ideas so much they have an EU Parliament Building named after him. It was Spinelli who came up with the "Single European Act" and most likely came up with the Maastricht Treaty which is the backbone of the EU as we know it now.

Spinelli based his ideological dreams of a United States of Europe on the theories and principles of his hero, Stalin.

It all makes sense when you think about it

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Yes. If you can't beat them in a war, conquer them politically especially if they have some weak politicians in charge.

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That's Germanys plan - to dominate Europe through finance as they can't do it physically. They already control the interest rates, own all the debt and also have the Euro (which is the new name for the Deutsch Mark)

Here is the Spinelli building in the EU parliament. It was built using other peoples money, in the true spirit of communism

https://www.cvce.eu/en/obj/the_europ...f760bfd36.html