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02-08-2017, 05:27 PM
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I'm attending a counselling psychologist for support and he wants me to choose a weight loss diet preferably one where I lose a lot of weight initially. Can anybody suggest anything as I keep falling off the wagon and keep gaining weight. In fact I'm a glutton
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02-08-2017, 06:07 PM
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Eat the half...

Eat everything you want but only half the portion.

or you could go for one of the more mainstream diets but then you have to find someone here who actually believes in them.
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03-08-2017, 05:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Cass ->
Eat the half...

Eat everything you want but only half the portion.

or you could go for one of the more mainstream diets but then you have to find someone here who actually believes in them.
I agree! When you go out to dine, have them box up half of the meal before you start. That way you will eat only half and have another delicious meal to go.

The underlying thought here, which I completely agree with, is that you won't change your lifestyle if you give up everything that you enjoy or try a forced diet of foods that you don't. Find a few lower calorie foods that you enjoy, and start each meal with those. Use an online calculator to determine how many calories you can eat to lose weight and write down everything you eat for a while. You can do this!
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03-08-2017, 09:14 AM
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I did well on cutting out sugar, you do lose a lot initially, low carb and no sugar.

After first week or so it's easy, no cravings, and you will find after a bit of success you wonder how you ate so much before.
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03-08-2017, 09:24 AM
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Sue says I should loose weight as well. What scares me is having lost so much so quickly when I was ill and in hospital I don't want hat to happen again.
Remember if you are unwell and don't feel like eating, having a bit of weight for the body gives it something to carry on with.

A skinny person has no reserves to fall back on, at least that is the way I look at it, apart from not making a good cushion to rest on in bed. Who wants to sleep next to a load of bones.

Too easy to get a fixation of being slim, look how ill people (girls) get by starving themselves to fit the ideal model figure.

Man wants something to get hold of, not something that slips through his arms
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03-08-2017, 09:49 AM
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Thank you for all your replies. I've decided to ease up on myself and cut the junk and eat half portions. I'm just like everyone else but I beat myself up relentlessly
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03-08-2017, 09:57 AM
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I'm attending a counselling psychologist for support and he wants me to choose a weight loss diet preferably one where I lose a lot of weight initially.
Honestly I would ditch the psychologist immediately, because if he is steering you towards crash diets then he doesn't have your health or best interests at heart. I hope you are not paying for the service.

Originally Posted by noolsg ->
Can anybody suggest anything as I keep falling off the wagon and keep gaining weight. In fact I'm a glutton
You are in this situation because you have been mislead and your mind set is focussed on the wrong thing. There are 1000s (prob millions) of people caught in the same trap.

When you say "falling off the wagon" what you mean presumably is that you keep eating things that your current diet or eating plan says you shouldn't and thus your situation persists.

You will get lots of varying views on this forum so I can only offer mine and you can take it or leave it as you wish. I'm a realist so I will say it like it, warts 'n' all.

Diets do not work.

No diet will ever work

That is a simple premise that you need to come to understand and accept. Until you do, you will remain trapped in the cycle of yoyoing and gradually putting more and more weight on.

Diets, by their very definition, are TEMPORARY eating plans which can only ever result in TEMPORARY changes. A diet, does not represent a permanent eating regime. It is designed to change things in the short/immediate term, but the moment that eating regime ceases, normal service resumes and the weight goes back on and more besides.

It is a horrible trap, a complete con, and the sooner you understand that and be resolved to put aside all diets from this point on, you will not get better.

I include in this all Slimming clubs too. These are equally a con. They operate on a business model that ensures that people keep coming back. They also use diets and eating plans and a good dose of psycological techniques to perpetuate their business. These companies make $billions out of desperate and vulnerable people, mostly women.
They do NOT teach people proper food knowledge and instead pander to their clients laziness and apathy and give them suggested menus and eating diaries. It is all a con.
Avoid these clubs if you want to get better.

So what does that leave then?

It leaves a complete mind set change.

A change where you forget about your weight, you forget about how you look, you forget about how you think other people perceive you and you throw that set of weighing scales in the bin.

When weight is your focus, you are on the wrong path. The path to a "death spiral" where your weight gradually increases until you start to suffer serious health problems.

Your focus needs to be HEALTH not weight.

You need to have a change of heart and mind and be determined to be a healthy person, nothing more. When you are a healthy person, everything else looks after itself.

Have you ever noticed that when you cut yourself, your body quickly stems the blood flow and then miraculously heals the wound. In a few days you can't even tell there was ever a cut. Are you conscious of how you are doing that healing? Nope. You have no control over it at all. The body looks after itself.

What you must be determined to do, is simply give your body the right fuel. Stop poisoning it with bad foods and ingredients and just give it the nutritious fuel it needs. Just think of it as a car. You wouldn't pour milk into your petrol tank would you !

Once you have determined that you WILL be a healthy person from this point on, you then embark on a journey of discovery. Just what is healthy? What foods are healthy and what foods are not? You need to start to research this properly because I can promise you that you live in a world where lots of foods are presented as healthy but which in fact are not.

There is NO QUICK FIX to be had. Do not expect one.

It took years to put on the weight, and it will/should take a fair time to lose it again.

However you must allow your body to rebalance itself naturally. It can not be forced.

Make a life change now to be healthy. In doing so, absolutely refuse to eat anything you know that is unhealthy. Don't do it on the basis that you think it will make you fat (e.g. cream cakes), do it because you know that it is unhealthy to your body.

Your primary enemy at this time is sugar.

It pervades just about every product in the supermarkets and is the equivalent of a Class A drug. It messes with your brain, making you think foods are lovely when in fact they are not (by triggering pleasure receptors) and it messes with your body's functions. After eating sugar you will experience hunger pangs brought on by the sugar's effect on the brain and body. Your body isn't actually hungry at all but the sugar is creating that sensation. As a result you reach for snacks to appease the hunger and that's how the weight piles on.

Sugar is killing people plain and simple but it's a multi billion dollar industry and so it is put in everything to increase sales of any product.

Get sugar out of your life.

To do so you HAVE to start understanding just where it is and how it hides. Products you might have thought were healthy simply are not.

How about a standard 500g pot of NATURAL YOGHURT. Does that seem healthy? Most people would say yes.
Go and look at the label and see how much sugar is in there.

A 500g pot of Tesco Low Fat Natural Yoghurt contains 34.5g of sugar !!!!

To put that in perspective, 4g of sugar is one teaspoon.

So in that pot are roughly 9 full teaspoonfuls of sugar !!

And people think that eating a bit of fresh fruit with such yoghurt is healthy !

This is why people are struggling. Because the products they are picking up on supermarket shelves are bad and they are ignorant of that fact.

Understanding and education is the key. Start Googling and learn about everything you eat.

Stop worrying about weight, reject ALL DIETS and be resolved once and for all to be a healthy person and thereby live your life in a healthy way. Eat only healthy foods, don't buy processed foods, just buy only natural food that comes out of the ground, that Nature provided. Fruits, vegetables, grains, pulses etc. If you eat meat and fish, only buy from a supplier with good provenance. A proper farm shop for example.

When you resolve to be a healthy person, your body will love you for it and will naturally begin to eject and discard the things in it that it doesn't want or need. It will detox automatically and the weight will gradually come off as a by product and what comes off will PERMANENTLY come off.

It;'s permanent because you are NOT on a diet. You are NOT on a temporary eating regime any more that is destined to one day cease. You are simply a healthy person determined to eat only healthy foods.

Your life will change if you make that mind set change.

Don;t get me wrong, you can still enjoy the occasional cake or treat no problem at all. But when you do, you know already that you are eating something unhealthy, but that is a conscious decision. You know it's packed with bad sugar. The greater villain is all the other sugar that you are eating inadvertently in other products.

The more your food education improve the more healthy you will become and everything, not just weight, will improve. Your brain function, clarity of mind, energy levels and so on.
You will start to actually want to be more active rather than that being a chore.

For more useful info, search this forum for posts that I have made and the term "sugar" and you will find 2 or 3 useful threads.

There is more than just sugar causing problems of course, but it remains the No 1 villain. Anyone who is trying to lose weight but who has not yet given up sugar properly is simply deluding themselves.

So, no more diets, no more focus on weight, just resolve to be a healthy person and let your body look after the rest.

I wish you every success.
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03-08-2017, 04:41 PM
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I lost weight by cutting out Bread , Ive read Nicky Cambell has lost Stones by cutting out
Bread , RED Meat and Chocolate ..

I think he looks ill with his weight loss , his face now looks haggard and drawn .
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05-08-2017, 11:45 AM
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The 5:2 diet got 9st off me after my specialist told me to use it. Very easy too.
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I've found the best diet is to never be hungry by filling up on good, healthy food...........and then push that on a bit with the 5 : 2

Porridge for breakfast is great.
Home made vegetable soup at lunchtime - no bread.
A healthy 500 calorie evening meal - use a smaller than usual plate. 1/2 full with vegetables; 1/4 carbs; 1/4 protein.

If you want a snack eat an apple.

Always drink a large glass of water before eating!
 
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