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The "wee frees"?!

I was once told that the main reason there is a problem in NI is because it was mainly imported by Presbyterian Scots moving there.
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Originally Posted by Pixie Knuckles ->
Its sectarianism, Annie, pure and simple. This isn't about football...its about Protestants - v - Catholics. Its about marching through the streets every Summer to celebrate William of Orange, its about spitting on priests and walking through Catholic areas to show dominance. Power and control, nothing to do with football. The fans sing anti-catholic songs at football games, Catholic footballers are not allowed to to bless themselves before a game or when they score a goal as its considered inciteful behaviour....oh I could go on and on. I am not Catholic, btw. Oh, and "huns" are a term used to describe rangers players or fans because they behave like Attila the Hun
Well I never knew that ... about Catholics and Protestant, not up Scotland.
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16-05-2021, 05:38 PM
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Does it all go back to William of Orange (who was Dutch)?
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16-05-2021, 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Pixie Knuckles ->
Its sectarianism, Annie, pure and simple. This isn't about football...its about Protestants - v - Catholics. Its about marching through the streets every Summer to celebrate William of Orange, its about spitting on priests and walking through Catholic areas to show dominance. Power and control, nothing to do with football. The fans sing anti-catholic songs at football games, Catholic footballers are not allowed to to bless themselves before a game or when they score a goal as its considered inciteful behaviour....oh I could go on and on. I am not Catholic, btw. Oh, and "huns" are a term used to describe rangers players or fans because they behave like Attila the Hun
I remember when Rangers manager Graeme Souness created an upset amongst the faithful when he signed former Celtic player and catholic Mo Johnston in 1989. Another incident that caused an upset was Rangers player Paul Gascoigne doing the flute celebration in front of the Celtic fans. He got a hefty fine from the SFA and headed back down to England two months later.
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Does it all go back to William of Orange (who was Dutch)?
Yes, they celebrate his victory at the Battle of The Boyne on the 12th July every single year. In fact, smaller marches happen before and after, but on that day hundreds march with drums and flutes, through towns and cities (concentrating on Catholic areas, like I mentioned before...to show dominance) and cause so much disruption its unreal. Not to mention police resources. But so many police are protestant anyway, and so are most high falutin' folk, like councillors and people who could make a difference, so this is another reason why nothing is done about it. They are all part of the problem.
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17-05-2021, 07:50 AM
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If there is crowd trouble in sport it is always about soccer, perhaps it is time to leave it for the women to play (they play it well) and abandon the male version with all their poncy falling over, Oscar winning play acting and crowd violence.

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But Morti this was really really off the normal hooliganism compass. They were kicking schmitt out of each other indiscriminately. Didn't matter which side they were on. Just random violent craziness.
sounds like Israel -v - Gaza to me? - human nature fuelled by historic allegiances and also alcohol is a time bomb - and we say as a race we have become civilized? well some perhaps
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sounds like Israel -v - Gaza to me? - human nature fuelled by historic allegiances and also alcohol is a time bomb - and we say as a race we have become civilized? well some perhaps
Don't overlook the other addictive and trouble-making habit of drugs, there will probably be many who are indulging in this before, during and after football matches too!
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17-05-2021, 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Pixie Knuckles ->
Yes, they celebrate his victory at the Battle of The Boyne on the 12th July every single year. In fact, smaller marches happen before and after, but on that day hundreds march with drums and flutes, through towns and cities (concentrating on Catholic areas, like I mentioned before...to show dominance) and cause so much disruption its unreal. Not to mention police resources. But so many police are protestant anyway, and so are most high falutin' folk, like councillors and people who could make a difference, so this is another reason why nothing is done about it. They are all part of the problem.
Thank you so much Pixie for highlighting the real problem, because whenever I've tried to discuss this (sometimes with other Scots elsewhere in these very forums) it has quickly descended into a very ill-tempered argument because such honesty is angrily refuted.
But what you say is, sadly, absolutely correct.
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17-05-2021, 10:19 AM
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Hatred of fake Rangers fans must be curbed -
How can Scotland deal with Rangers? That’s become a vital, complex, risky question for both the police and the Scottish Government. The “fans” who have wrecked George Square twice are not necessarily driven by their love of football and their pride of the team and club.
By Helen Martin
Monday, 17th May 2021, 7:00 am

Rangers fans – or ‘fans’ – celebrate winning the Scottish Premiership title,
It’s quite clear that they are a sectarian mob, singing songs and yelling about killing Catholics. Dressing in a Rangers outfit is not their choice. They are violent and foul Unionists waving Union Jacks and wearing red, white and blue hats, fighting with each other, chucking missiles at police, urinating wherever they are standing or staggering, starting fires, smashing benches and ruining the Square.


They are not all from Glasgow, of course. A reasonable percentage are from Northern Ireland, taking part in Orange walks and supporting the Protestant paramilitaries. That’s not because they are worshipping members of a Protestant church, it’s because they hate and are at war with Catholics. All that, along with sectarian chants during matches, isn’t about genuine admiration of the football team. They’ve managed to nail it as a permitted club gathering and opportunity to celebrate their hatred.

If anyone feels sorry for the Rangers club and thinks they are suffering from foul fans, they are not considering how this evil, vile, vindictive association has been allowed by the club for decades, letting it grow into a mob attacking Glasgow centre. We can’t be 100 per cent sure that most of the executives have the same attitudes as the obnoxious “fans”, but they have permitted sectarian songs, and don’t seem to have any method of banning swearing, violent troublemakers. All the club does is get the thugs to walk away from Ibrox, with no responsibility for where they’ll go and what they’ll do.


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Pictures: Thousands of fans descend on Ibrox on trophy day

Rangers FC should, certainly by now, be trying to find some way to control or reject these disgusting “fans”. But of course, it’s quite likely there were some in the shocking, George Square gathering who haven’t actually had season tickets or even been to a match, rather just watching it on TV. Their “club” is for violence, vandalism and fighting, not following football.

Today, as well as their hideous criminality and revolting existence in the Square, they have potentially added to a rise of Covid-19, given that Glasgow is already keeping restrictions because of the India variant.

Along with that they are giving the impression (if not a vow) of threatening the majority of the country who voted against Brexit, who want to leave the UK and rejoin the EU. Unionist politicians don’t physically fight, but Unionist, sectarian Rangers could.

What can the government do? They must be trying to figure that out. Can they shut Rangers down? The Club could pay for George Square repairs… but will they? They should pay millions to hire security firms to deal with their dangerous, loathed “fans”.

And any genuine Rangers supporter who is intelligent and moral should opt out – especially Tory politicians like Murdo Fraser – to avoid shame.

Says it all!
 
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