03-05-2020, 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by d00d
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I didn't say that.He probably is a bully. But, as you say, that bit is missing from the video.
Hi d00d
Okay you didn't call him a thug... but he has been to referred as an animal.
Also I really can't understand why so many tabloids seem against this guy... Maybe I am missing something.
Thankfully many of the thousands of comments in the papers agree with what my interpretation of the said incident ( If they hadn't I'd think I was losing the plot)
Look I respect your opinion and I hope you don't take any offence to my going on, its not personal, and if I have offended anyone I apologise.
Its just all the condemnation is chucked at the guy in black, and the press say little about the actions of the guy in white, and wheres the start of the clip I originally seen... and why is it missing.
I will see if can get that extra bit of film sent to me.
03-05-2020, 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by marciniak
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Hi d00dOkay you didn't call him a thug... but he has been to referred as an animal.
Also I really can't understand why so many tabloids seem against this guy... Maybe I am missing something.
Thankfully many of the thousands of comments in the papers agree with what my interpretation of the said incident ( If they hadn't I'd think I was losing the plot)
Look I respect your opinion and I hope you don't take any offence to my going on, its not personal, and if I have offended anyone I apologise.
Its just all the condemnation is chucked at the guy in black, and the press say little about the actions of the guy in white, and wheres the start of the clip I originally seen... and why is it missing.
I will see if can get that extra bit of film sent to me.
Personally, I don't have an opinion on this unfortunate incident. Whatever happened, it must be a huge embarrassment for all concerned. But I still think the "security guard", if that's what he is, is not cut out for the job. This is not a Glasgow nightclub.
03-05-2020, 07:48 PM
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"Shoot First And Ask Questions after".I can recall a self defence course, a very long time ago, in which the instructor suggested that we should never let the aggressor get so far into your face that he can inflict serious damage.
It was further suggested that the head but was a useful weapon but you must avoid head butting to the bridge of the nose as that can cause death or brain damage to the target.
Can't remember who said it, or when, but I think that some Services people might agree?
Maybe I dreamed it.
03-05-2020, 08:38 PM
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Re: Retaliate First........
Originally Posted by d00d
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Tabloids are masters of windups. They want the punter to disagree, good for readership figures, internet clicks is everything. Personally, I don't have an opinion on this unfortunate incident. Whatever happened, it must be a huge embarrassment for all concerned. But I still think the "security guard", if that's what he is, is not cut out for the job. This is not a Glasgow nightclub.
I do repsect and understand what you are saying.
03-05-2020, 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Tedc
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"Shoot First And Ask Questions after".I can recall a self defence course, a very long time ago, in which the instructor suggested that we should never let the aggressor get so far into your face that he can inflict serious damage.
It was further suggested that the head but was a useful weapon but you must avoid head butting to the bridge of the nose as that can cause death or brain damage to the target.
Can't remember who said it, or when, but I think that some Services people might agree?
Maybe I dreamed it.
And I've heard " Attack is the best form of Defence "
04-05-2020, 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by The Artful Todger
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It was an unprovoked attack. What was taking place was unquestionably a verbal altercation. That did not justify a physical attack. It was NOT a commensurate response.
The gobshite in white got what he deserved.
People who think like you are half the reason you get these bully gobshites thinking they can do what they like.
Unprovoked my arse, it was demonstrably provoked.
04-05-2020, 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by fender
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Rubbish.The gobshite in white got what he deserved.
People who think like you are half the reason you get these bully gobshites thinking they can do what they like.
Unprovoked my arse, it was demonstrably provoked.
Did the chap in white get what he deserved, no. He did not "deserve" to be illegally physically assaulted.
04-05-2020, 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by The Artful Todger
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Provoked - unquestionably, but his response was not commensurate and in any case was a criminal assault since it was not self defence.Did the chap in white get what he deserved, no. He did not "deserve" to be illegally physically assaulted.
05-05-2020, 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by fender
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Rubbish.The gobshite in white got what he deserved.
People who think like you are half the reason you get these bully gobshites thinking they can do what they like.
Unprovoked my arse, it was demonstrably provoked.
It was a deliberate act of provocation.
It was aimed to force a response.
And it forced one.
I'd love to get on the Jury for one of these, if it ever came to trial!
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