24-11-2016, 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Twink55
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I feel that your posts are saying "I know best", but attitudes like that from a new member, will never win favour with many of the intelligent posters on this forum.
glad you explained that with authoritative aplomb .. else I was struggling with this thread.Disclaimer: Humour Alert. Any resemblance to persons living or dead is purely coincidental.
24-11-2016, 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by swimfeeders
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In response to the shops thing, a shop is a shop, as long as it is the same use class then Councils can do naff all.
What I am highlighting is that loads of "cheap" shops have been appearing and that imo is a purposeful move to pander to the incoming and increasing number of immigrants and the rest of the population whose income and available spending money is being reduced all the time.
24-11-2016, 08:00 PM
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HiThe Government Deregulation of planning.
A1 Shops - Shops, retail warehouses, hairdressers, undertakers, travel and ticket agencies, post offices, pet shops, sandwich bars, showrooms, domestic hire shops, dry cleaners, funeral directors and internet cafes.
A2 Financial and professional services - Financial services such as banks and building societies, professional services (other than health and medical services) and including estate and employment agencies. It does not include betting offices or pay day loan shops - these are now classed as “sui generis” uses (see below).
A3 Restaurants and cafés - For the sale of food and drink for consumption on the premises - restaurants, snack bars and cafes.
A4 Drinking establishments - Public houses, wine bars or other drinking establishments (but not night clubs).
A5 Hot food takeaways - For the sale of hot food for consumption off the premises.
There is also a presumption in favour of Development.
Councils do not have a lot of power now at all in relation to Planning.
24-11-2016, 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted by swimfeeders
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HiForgot to say, Brexit will be much more costly for some than others.
When we are out, no more cheap booze and tobacco.
Limited to 200 fags or a measly 250gms rolling tobacco.
Time to stock up methinks.
25-11-2016, 02:27 AM
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I think perhaps you should consider what has already been sold off to foreign interests from Britain before considering you can successfully go it alone?http://www.managementtoday.co.uk/buy...rticle/1146256
the slogan "Made in Britain" may not apply much longer
the much respected Institute for Fiscal Studies in UK has recently warned of downward trends with every household losing 1,250 pounds a year because of Brexit - however pensioners will be protected. I would recommend the reading of this sobering report instead of keeping your head in the sand!
25-11-2016, 02:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Meg
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Don't be such a pessimist JB 
I think once we have thrown of the shackles of the EU there will be many opportunities for our country.I will give you an example following a discussion I heard earlier on the radio. The majority of cut flowers and plants in this country are apparently imported from Holland because for years it was cheaper to buy them in than to grow them . The growers here are saying with imports from Europe being more expensive because of the £ there has never been a better time to expand and grow /export our own flowers . Likewise vegetables/meat and other produce.
There are many more examples of new opportunities for trade opening up with our withdrawal from the EU, it is going to be an entrepreneur's paradise .
I am very optimistic for the future
Under the now-closed Seasonal Agricultural Workers Scheme (SAWS), more than 22,000 people from Bulgaria and Romania were provided with a working visa allowing them to stay for between five weeks and six months in Britain to work solely on farms.
The lifting of the restrictions in 2014 created a labour shortage in agriculture and results from an NFU survey revealed that some 29% of growers experienced problems recruiting enough labour in 2015 and some 66% expected reductions in labour availability by 2018.
And now, farmers and growers face the prospect of experiencing yet another, potentially more severe labour market shortage when the UK leaves the EU.
The NFU’s horticulture and potatoes board chairman echoes the fears of many farmers, reiterating that this issue isn’t going away. This is why the access to EU labour is high on the list of priorities for the team and an area that the NFU is lobbying fiercely on.
ref: http://www.nfuonline.com/news/brexit...brexit-labour/
25-11-2016, 05:24 AM
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Originally Posted by gumbud
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I think perhaps you should consider what has already been sold off to foreign interests from Britain before considering you can successfully go it alone?http://www.managementtoday.co.uk/buy...rticle/1146256
the slogan "Made in Britain" may not apply much longer
the much respected Institute for Fiscal Studies in UK has recently warned of downward trends with every household losing 1,250 pounds a year because of Brexit - however pensioners will be protected. I would recommend the reading of this sobering report instead of keeping your head in the sand!
If people actually stop and look at themselves for a moment. The watch you’re wearing is probably Swiss. The clothes, although they may have been bought in a British retail outlet, invariably started life in a foreign sweatshop; the cotton industry collapsed decades ago. The car you’re driving will be a foreign make, the mass produced car industry vanished decades ago. That fish supper you had last night? The fish was probably imported from Iceland, Denmark or Norway and the potatoes from France. As you type away on your foreign manufactured computer, eating your subsidiary of US PepsiCo Walkers crisps . . .
Britain went bankrupt decades ago. It’s now propped up by borrowing at a rate never before seen in history. Cameron has borrowed, in five years, what every previous government for the last century has borrowed and that’s just to keep afloat. UK debts are now estimated at five times what the economy is worth. That’s nearly twice the debt of Greece.
A brief history on this thread, post 38
There are some who will say the UK will now thrive, but with what? The reality is that the UK isn’t even paying off its debt; it’s struggling just to pay the interest on it. The reason it’s able to limp on is because borrowing money has been easy for the past three decades, at low interest rates. If interest rates rise, the UK goes the same way as Greece, Ireland, Spain and Portugal.
The problems are several, but the entitlement welfare state is the main one. In a post-industrial society, with mass unemployment, what’s left of the taxpayers can’t fund equality entitlement. The second reason is competitiveness. High taxes, mountains of regulations and a tax system of PAYE, the more you earn, the more you pay, sounds more in keeping with Marx’s, ‘from each according to their means’, than wealth producing capitalist economics.
The UK has to abandon its socialist principles, forget the relative poverty angst, get competitive and start to mass produce something it can sell again.
25-11-2016, 07:03 AM
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Which is why a labour government under Corbyn will never get in .All countries have debts no doubt including China which is where a lot of the sweat shop stuff comes from isn't that so?
People can live without it .
I think it will be hard but Britain will survive .
25-11-2016, 07:11 AM
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Originally Posted by gumbud
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and this concern will be echoed right across all farming in UK
ref: http://www.nfuonline.com/news/brexit...brexit-labour/
There are ways around this .
We have several sources of labour here in the U.K.
We have students ourselves who look for seasonal work -there are even Australians who come on their world tour looking for
temporary work although these are not usually reliable and drift off .
We have young unemployed who can for a decent wage fill in the gaps .
And at the end of the day we can issue seasonal labour visas to allow people to come in as we did before .
It's not impossible.
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