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17-06-2020, 03:29 PM
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Re: Nz & oz fta??

Originally Posted by Solasch ->
From an earlier post of mine. Look it up for yourself.
So you're having to rely on repeating yourself now? Don't you have anything new?
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17-06-2020, 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Percy Vere ->
So you're having to rely on repeating yourself now? Don't you have anything new?
You see? That is the problem with your kind. Facts remain the facts. I know, hard for you to understand, but sit down and take an hour to think it through.
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17-06-2020, 03:36 PM
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Thank you for that compliment. Actually I just did not write any commas. Seems that was not so wrong...
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17-06-2020, 03:42 PM
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In britain the people's representative, the house of commons, is rather muzzled when it comes to treaties, i.e. trade agreements.
The negotiation and signature of treaties … is a function of the government, exercised through the 'royalp prerogative’, and therefore parliamentary ‘interest and involvement’ in the treaty-making process has generally been ‘limited’. Indeed, parliamentary scrutiny of treaty-making, such as it is, is generally confined to scrutiny of legislation introduced into parliament by the government for the purpose of implementing treaty obligations. By that point, however, parliament is in a position to address no more than how such obligations are to be given effect in domestic law, the existence of those obligations — and their binding effect upon the UK as a state in international law — being a given at that stage in the process. In the light of that, and bearing in mind that not all treaties generate obligations that need to be given legal effect via domestic primary legislation, it is clear that scrutiny of treaty-related legislation cannot reasonably be regarded as a substitute for scrutiny of treaties themselves at a point when they amount to something other than a done deal.
Thank you Solasch for your detailed explanation. I wanted to point out that expecting a treaty to take effect does not necessarily mean that it is "done and ready". Am I right?

It was I think "Bread" who pointed out the other day that the FTA between Japan and the EU is not ready and ratified. Still it "entered into force" in Feb. 2019.

Maybe I am confusing things but all I want to say is that I would not bet all my money on those treaties yet.
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17-06-2020, 04:30 PM
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Thank you for that compliment. Actually I just did not write any commas. Seems that was not so wrong...
First line.
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17-06-2020, 04:41 PM
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Very good, it looks like we all can rely on your assumption. With so many convincing arguments nothing can go wrong.
All that looks so promising that I wished there was a way for the UK to end the UK-EU negotiations and the transition period immediately. There will be no appropriate deal between UK and the EU anyway so why lose more time and money...

Anyway that is all fantastic news.
Exactly 7779311!!
What does the number signify BTW?

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17-06-2020, 04:54 PM
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Showing frost to be an ignoramus or a liar when he stated that the EU hadn't brought up a level playing field in other trade negotiations.
I read that to mean that countries allready trading with NZ will
have tariffs applied to their goods to make sure they dont out
compete eu countries Solly??
What do you think?

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Exactly 7779311!!
What does the number signify BTW?

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The number is the name of a song of a band "The Time". I like that song.
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17-06-2020, 04:59 PM
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The number is the name of a song of a band "The Time". I like that song.
Oh, thanks for that then!

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17-06-2020, 06:04 PM
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Hi

We have got the South Korea Deal.

The one we want is the Japan Deal.

That is the Crucial One, it totally eclipses all others, including any deal with the USA.
 
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