Re: Boris is bluffing.
Originally Posted by
Solasch
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Yes, that is a major difference between the netherlands and england. We are used to being a small player, so we rely on our diplomatic and negotiating skills. Also, we always form alliances with other (small) countries. The first being the benelux (belgium, netherlands, luxemburg), the other the EGKS (forerunner of the EEC).
The EU is fit to measure for us. We let big boys like germany and france have the satisfaction of the idea they are the boss. To achieve our goals we bond with another big player, like the UK. Now you are leaving we form other alliances, like the hanse alliance.
The UK trips on the illusion of freedom, but in imagining gaining freedom (for those who can afford it) you lose much benefits for the less well of and the country as a whole..
Hi
Solasch, please do not confuse a wish to be independent with stupidity.
I have no wish at all for the UK to be a World Player, I have no wish for the UK to "Punch above it's weight".
Those days have gone and we simply cannot afford Vanity Projects.
I am no longer prepared to subsidise French farmers, nor German Defense spending.
Neither am I willing to follow the USA blindly into wars which are nothing to do with us.
We have problems here which are affecting the quality of life of ordinary working people.
We need to leave the EU, draw our horns in, reduce our overseas aid budget and improve our own quality of life.
We can drop from the 6th largest economy in the World to the 10th largest, but still have have a better quality of life by spending our money differently.
The EU is not contributing to the cost of our Aircraft Carriers to protect Trade Routes, we are being drawn into a war with Iran.
Nothing to do with us at all, we are not here to protect Israel.
We do not need our aircraft carriers to protect the Falklands or our other interests abroad.
Time has moved on, we have low cost missiles which are much more effective in doing that.
We are not here to subsidise an EU Army.
Germany has an annual surplus, we borrow to fund our Armed Forces.
The German Luftwaffe cannot even fight at night or in bad weather, they cannot target effectively.
The EU has nothing like GCHQ, we should charge for it, not give it away free.
Time to leave and go our own way.
Spend our money on ourselves.
I am different to some on here, I am not a Little Englander, I have no wish to be a World Player, I know leaving will hurt for a while.
it is however worth it.
My Vote counts for sod all in the EU Elections, I cannot influence the EU.
My Vote does however count here.
Unlike others, I bear the EU no bad will, good luck to them.
It is simply not for me.
I also take the greatest exception to the insults that Leavers are Racists.
They are not.
Farage has a foreign wife, my lodgers are Polish and so are my Pretendies.
I also put up NHS Staff arriving from abroad.
These type of insults are primarily from UK born and bred Remainers.
The holier than thou Brigade who have never been the only native English Speaker in the house.
Neither am I Islamophobic.
Another common accusation against Leavers.
My Nurse is a Muslim, she does not wear a Headscarf.
I have employed Muslim Enforcement Officers, absolutely brilliant at their jobs.
The Enemy is fanatical Muslims, for which I and my Muslim Enforcement Officers had no time for at all.
I am a complete arse when it comes to dealing with them, as were my Muslim Enforcement Officers, particularly the female ones.
I have no time at all for Corbyn and Remainer Snowflakes.
They can call me all the names under the sun and so what?
Out we go.
I would prefer it to be on Good Terms and with a Deal which benefits us all.
If that is not possible, we must still Leave.