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09-09-2019, 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by swimfeeders ->
Hi

WTO Trade Agreements do not routinely include services.

What part of this do you not understand.
The part where you suggest we should have gone with that arrangement.

Services are 80% of our business, what good was that arrangement if it excluded services

What we need is an agreement that covers both goods and services and which takes us completely out of the EU..
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09-09-2019, 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Banchory ->
That would never work unless the council of 27 had given Barnier a mandate to quiesce to Borisís demands and they cannot have done that because as they keep stating, Boris needs to tell them what he wants and he can only do that in formal negotiations

If he leaves negotiations until after we leave we would certainly be negotiating from a position of weakness
You think so Banchory?? l disagree, the eu needs our
contributions, therefore they would be more amenable to
dealing fairly with uk in negotiations. For myself l prefer to
leave with no deal and no complications, the deals? would come
later as european companies realise uk is their customer, not
Just a place to dump their products?

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09-09-2019, 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Donkeyman ->
Boris was going to negotiate either on the day before exit
date or later, as it is well known that eu will not negotiate
in good faith untill the last minute! So Boris's last minute
strategy is a good one if we want a halfway decent deal?
All it requires is steady nerves and consistency?
Unfortunately uk does not seem to have much of either
at present?
I am still behind Boris and l bthink he and Nigel should
get together on this!
Regards Donkeyman!
What your suggesting is impossible donks. No deal exit is only prevented by a (any) withdrawal deal going into acion. For that the HoC need to ratify it. The striking of a deal date is limited by the ability of the HoC to sit and decide on it. So not before the end of prorogation. After that the last date for boris to table a deal is october 24. And if the deal is different from the may deal, the european council has to approve of it in the week before. So closing a deal with the EU needs to be done ultimately the week before that. That limits the time for boris to october 10 (by and by), so one month from now. In your terms the "last minute" is on october 10.
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09-09-2019, 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Realist ->
If it excluded services what use was it? Services are 80% of our business.
80% of our trade with eu Realist, what is the % of that
to our trade with the rest of the world?

Regards Donkeyman!
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09-09-2019, 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Realist ->
The part where you suggest we should have gone with that arrangement.

Services are 80% of our business, what good was that arrangement if it excluded services

What we need is an agreement that covers both goods and services and which takes us completely out of the EU..
What you need is on offer. It's called the Withdrawal Agreement. Take it and be done with it.
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09-09-2019, 01:51 PM
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**Personal off topic bickering removed yet again.
Please stick to the subject.
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09-09-2019, 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Solasch ->
What you need is on offer. It's called the Withdrawal Agreement. Take it and be done with it.
No the Withdrawal Agreement is a lie.

predominantly because it doesn't represent a Withdrawal at all. It leaves us in the EU under its control and bound by its rules.

It is and always been an utter farce and total travesty and an open testament to the dictatorial traits of the EU Megalomaniacs.
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09-09-2019, 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Donkeyman ->
80% of our trade with eu Realist, what is the % of that
to our trade with the rest of the world?

Regards Donkeyman!
Exactly 50% of UK export to the USA is services ($ 60 bn).
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09-09-2019, 03:07 PM
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Re: The Benn Bill May Actually be Illegal....

Originally Posted by Donkeyman ->
80% of our trade with eu Realist, what is the % of that
to our trade with the rest of the world?

Regards Donkeyman!
Seems the EU is by far your most important partner when it comes to services.


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