10-01-2019, 07:55 PM
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Re: Brexit - Can you ever please both sides?
Originally Posted by Judd
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Exactly. Funny how the referendum always reverts to `advisory` because the Remain camp lost the vote. Would they still claim as much if the referendum worked out in their favour? Of course not.
Whatever the government does is up to them.
However, if the referendum result is not acted on in a democratic manner, MPs who have decided to ignore the public's wishes had better watch out in 2022.
And despite their blusterings, I think they all realise that deep down. Perhaps they're hoping that people will have forgotten by then!
10-01-2019, 08:18 PM
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Re: Brexit - Can you ever please both sides?
Originally Posted by Bread
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The answer is always in the question on a second referendum. It would be a betrayal of the peoples decision and end up with the same result.It would break democracy.
And it was legally binding because Cameron said the government will implement the decision if the people.
I never saw on the ballot the words " just for fun..."
Your chasing a unicorn
If the Bill had made the decision of the referendum legally binding then I would agree with you that not caring out that decision would be undemocratic and in breach of the law. But it didn’t and your claim that just because a Prime Minister stated something is farcical. If it were true then all May would need to do is state that we are leaving under the term of her deal and in your world it would be legally binding. It isn’t.
10-01-2019, 09:27 PM
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Re: Brexit - Can you ever please both sides?
Originally Posted by itsme
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The referendum wasn’t legally binding, but there’s plenty of scope for argument about whether politicians should feel obliged to implement the result anyway.The fact that the government said it would implement the outcome does not make it legally binding.
We will be leaving the EU. Period!
Now why don't you peddle your twisted vitriol elsewhere.
10-01-2019, 10:23 PM
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Re: Brexit - Can you ever please both sides?
Originally Posted by Fogey
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Article 50 (including the date we leave), is enshrined in law.We will be leaving the EU. Period!
Now why don't you peddle your twisted vitriol elsewhere.
Although my posts were about exposing the misconceptions and untruths regarding the status of the referendum Article 50 is interesting in how it will eventually pan out
The European Union (Notification of Withdrawal) Act 2017 empowered the Prime Minister to invoke Article 50. The Act is indeedenshrined in law.
However, the Courts have determined that Article 50 can be unilaterally revoked.
Whether the Act would that allows the PM to invoke the notice of withdrawal would also allow her to revoke it is unclear but, given the movement in parliament to prevent leaving without a deal and if as seems very likely May loses the vote on her deal it is unclear what parliament might do. Thereryhave been calls for a further referendum , extending the Article 50 timeframe which may require the consent of al EU nations or even revoking Article 50.
So we may be leaving as you have stated but the turmoil in parliament does not make this a given
As for me going somewhere else, why should I pander to your irrational fear of fact
11-01-2019, 01:42 AM
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Re: Brexit - Can you ever please both sides?
Originally Posted by Tedc
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Which is what the original post was all about...!
11-01-2019, 10:30 AM
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Re: Brexit - Can you ever please both sides?
Originally Posted by Bruce
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I don't know about pleasing both sides. I looks to me that neither side is pleased at all and I am starting to believe that will still be the case after 29th March.
11-01-2019, 11:03 AM
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Re: Brexit - Can you ever please both sides?
Originally Posted by Banchory
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I have merely stated fact. That you think facts to be “twisted vitriol” I personally think the truth to be important and the truth is that the referendum was only advisoryAlthough my posts were about exposing the misconceptions and untruths regarding the status of the referendum Article 50 is interesting in how it will eventually pan out
The European Union (Notification of Withdrawal) Act 2017 empowered the Prime Minister to invoke Article 50. The Act is indeedenshrined in law.
However, the Courts have determined that Article 50 can be unilaterally revoked.
Whether the Act would that allows the PM to invoke the notice of withdrawal would also allow her to revoke it is unclear but, given the movement in parliament to prevent leaving without a deal and if as seems very likely May loses the vote on her deal it is unclear what parliament might do. Thereryhave been calls for a further referendum , extending the Article 50 timeframe which may require the consent of al EU nations or even revoking Article 50.
So we may be leaving as you have stated but the turmoil in parliament does not make this a given
As for me going somewhere else, why should I pander to your irrational fear of fact
Article 50 can be unilaterally revoked - thats true. Didn't hear it in the referendum though.
Anyway the referendum in 1975 was advisory as well - maybe we shouldn't have been in the EU in the first place - or maybe we were in the EU illegally all this time.
There some more facts for you .. enjoy !
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