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Originally Posted by shropshiregirl ->
but during this crucial time we have to make a choice and that choice involves the backing of politicians who no doubt have their own vested interests but share our belief in regaining our sovereignty.

Yet another case of "Dance with the Devil".
The perceived "choice" is nothing but an illusion imo. Regardless of how you vote on the day the result will be whatever the powers that be want it to be. My personal assumption is that they will not allow us to leave the EU, there are too many moguls, oligarchs and mega-corporations with too much power and control to ever allow us to break free.
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09-03-2016, 06:34 PM
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Are you saying that the referendum will be 'fixed' Realist. That's rather a strong assertion.
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09-03-2016, 07:17 PM
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Here is a very interesting article.


https://gowlingwlg.com/en/united-kin...or-renegotiate
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10-03-2016, 05:33 PM
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Hi

I am firmly of the opinion that both sides are lying to us.

As for people feathering their own nests, that is also true of both sides, not just the Remain campaign.

The Out Campaign has some very right wing MP's and Financial Backers.

My own MP is one of them.

Out to them means abolishing the Minimum Wage, cutting costs to be "competitive", cutting inheritance tax and Duncan Smith wants the Unemployed and Under 25s not to have the Vote.

There is self interest on both sides of the argument, it is not all one way.

If these idiots do get in power when Cameron goes, there will be a backlash and we might have Corbyn.

Now that would be a total disaster.
Would it not just .
This is the man who invited a member of a terrorist group Hezbollah as his guest in the houses of parliament.
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10-03-2016, 07:36 PM
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Far better than the useless idiots we have now.
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10-03-2016, 07:49 PM
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Better for what?
Bringing in yet more migrants to undermine the manual labourer and welcoming terrorists?
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11-03-2016, 07:40 AM
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Far better than the useless idiots we have now.
All part of the process of emasculating the working class. On one side the corporate rich interested only in their own continued enrichment, on the other, the liberal left (the "useful idiots" of the ruling class) doing the rich's job for them by encouraging mass immigration and identity politics thereby destroying working class solidarity, depressing wages and working conditions and destroying our social infrastructure. Two sides of the same despicable coin.
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11-03-2016, 12:07 PM
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It will get a whole lot worse if we leave the EU because then they will be able to do as they like and screw the workers even more.
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11-03-2016, 12:14 PM
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They do pretty much as they like now and once TTIP comes in, the working class (and national sovereignty) will be 100% at the mercy of the rich (and, as we know, they have no mercy!).
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Searching for my Dubbin and the pitchfork and billhook have been sharpened. "Death to the Aristos"
 
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